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Lockdown 2?
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"Mr Johnson is expected to give Britain one final chance to prove it can follow the rules and suppress a second wave" - clearly the public can't follow the rules so is LD 2 now inevitable?
"Mr Johnson is expected to give Britain one final chance to prove it can follow the rules and suppress a second wave" - clearly the public can't follow the rules so is LD 2 now inevitable?
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//Boris announced easing of lockdown on 24th June when daily new cases of Covid-19 was 591. New daily cases now are 4,422.// And the conclusion is? If it's that the lockdown should have continued, consider this: it lasted for about three and a half months. Since then it has emerged that: - It has cost the country twenty years' economic growth. - Tens of...
12:08 Mon 21st Sep 2020
//And how much do you think lockdown2 will cost?//
I’ve really no idea. And if politicians have half the sense they were born with we won’t find out.
//Lockdown2 could possibly have been avoided.//
How? Before you answer, consider this: the only way to prevent the virus spreading, as mushroom points out, is to keep everybody away from everybody else. Even if you could do it (which you can’t) assuming you do not intend doing that forever (or until we all die of starvation or a vaccine is developed and all 7bn of us have been given it) then as soon as people start mixing with each other again the spread will resume. The partial lockdowns that we have had so far – including the “national” version which began in March - do nothing other than to slow the spread for their duration. So, lockdown v2 can be avoided. But it needs those allegedly running the show to accept that lockdown v1 was a failure. It slowed the spread for a while but that’s all it did. They need to accept that the virus will spread and they also need to accept that whatever edicts they introduce, whatever the size of the fines they threaten, people will socialise. Alas there doesn’t seem to be much sign of that acceptance.
I cannot remember who said it but someone said that doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting a different result is one of the first signs of madness.
I’ve really no idea. And if politicians have half the sense they were born with we won’t find out.
//Lockdown2 could possibly have been avoided.//
How? Before you answer, consider this: the only way to prevent the virus spreading, as mushroom points out, is to keep everybody away from everybody else. Even if you could do it (which you can’t) assuming you do not intend doing that forever (or until we all die of starvation or a vaccine is developed and all 7bn of us have been given it) then as soon as people start mixing with each other again the spread will resume. The partial lockdowns that we have had so far – including the “national” version which began in March - do nothing other than to slow the spread for their duration. So, lockdown v2 can be avoided. But it needs those allegedly running the show to accept that lockdown v1 was a failure. It slowed the spread for a while but that’s all it did. They need to accept that the virus will spread and they also need to accept that whatever edicts they introduce, whatever the size of the fines they threaten, people will socialise. Alas there doesn’t seem to be much sign of that acceptance.
I cannot remember who said it but someone said that doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting a different result is one of the first signs of madness.
NJ I have followed the posts between your good self and fraction fixture with interest both of you putting g forward your arguments so eloquently.
The practicalities are quite clear and for once disregarding what errors of judgement have been implemented in the past,i ask ,with respect :
What is YOUR solution to the PRESENT situation?
The practicalities are quite clear and for once disregarding what errors of judgement have been implemented in the past,i ask ,with respect :
What is YOUR solution to the PRESENT situation?
Our First Miniature delivered a softening-up briefing this morning leading me to expect pubs, cafes and restaurants will be closed in short order.
A good chunk of the west of Scotland has no visiting other households in place already and that can only be the beginning.
Word on the streets is that research institutes are focussing on growing a pair in the lab to be grafted onto everybody's buddy so he can make the announcement.
Previous attempts at attachment have failed miserably as the 'nads refused the host.
Some certainty would be a good thing, whatever it is.
A good chunk of the west of Scotland has no visiting other households in place already and that can only be the beginning.
Word on the streets is that research institutes are focussing on growing a pair in the lab to be grafted onto everybody's buddy so he can make the announcement.
Previous attempts at attachment have failed miserably as the 'nads refused the host.
Some certainty would be a good thing, whatever it is.
“i ask ,with respect :
What is YOUR solution to the PRESENT situation?”
With apologies to NJ, let me answer that before he does a far better job.
I don’t think there is a “solution” as such. And thinking there is is surely part of the issue.
What would help though would be the government adopting a strategy for proceeding and making the best of things.
At the moment it feels like a series of reactions to events.
What is YOUR solution to the PRESENT situation?”
With apologies to NJ, let me answer that before he does a far better job.
I don’t think there is a “solution” as such. And thinking there is is surely part of the issue.
What would help though would be the government adopting a strategy for proceeding and making the best of things.
At the moment it feels like a series of reactions to events.
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