Jimmy Savile

[royfromaus]

Could be interesting...could be a whitewash.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-54542956


Will you watch it?

[ladybirder]

Why are they wasting licence payers money on his story? I know more than I ever want to know.

[pixie374]

I know, gulliver.... but a post about a documentary is not "sick", it's just true.

[Mozz71]

//I think this post should be removed. I am amazed anyone wanted to post it at all. Sick.//

What's sick about this post? It's discussing a forthcoming television show, which just about everybody here is condemning. Savile's crimes should never be ignored or forgotten, or the risk of them being repeated is increased.

[retrocop]

//The BBC should cancel this and send the proposed budget to child protection charities. //

Preferably not Esther Rantzen's Childline though. She loved the Beeb so much she failed to whistleblow Saville's activities even though she said after his death and it all came to light that 'everyone in the BBC knew of Savile's paedophilia. It was an open secret'
This woman then becomes the president of Childline. I never liked her since she arrived at Harrow Road nick to do a fly on the wall documentary called 'Police Harrow Road'. A nasty ,sly ,manipulative, deceitful woman. Hey Ho I digress.

No I won't bother to watch the programme if it goes ahead. I don't watch the BBC news either.

[ummmm]

Gulliver - TV isn't just about entertainment. We wouldn't have 24/7 news if it was.

[Hopkirk]

Why would anyone want to watch this? A waste if licence fee money.

[ummmm]

To inform themselves.

He's not the only perv to have lived. Spot the signs of a predator if you have children.

And out all the people who turned a blind eye.

John Lydon expressed his views and got banned from the BBC....at least now they might highlight how bad he actually was so all his victims might see justice, albeit postmortem.

Rolf Harris is another one. I got slated for saying that on here.

[JimF]

Choosing not to watch a television programme is one thing, but to suggest that such a programme should not be made is just bizarre! Where do you draw the line? What about the TV miniseries "The Rise of Evil" where Robert Carlyle portrayed Adolf Hitler - should that not have been made? It would not be difficult to argue that Hitler was "worse" than Savile, if such things can be measured.

[Mozz71]

Jim, I think my disagreement with the show is the thought of the BBC potentially making money out of something they kept covered up. As I said, I thin it shouldn't go ahead, but if it did, no profit should come from it, via syndication etc.

[JimF]

I wouldn't necessarily argue, Mozz, but that is a different question. Perhaps they could donate any income generated from it to one of the many charities which work in this area through their main charity wing: https://www.bbc.co.uk/charityappeals/

Of course, to do that would be to essentially to admit that they covered for Savile, so I can't see that happening. It's fairly obvious that, despite their many claims to the contrary, the Beeb can more or less do whatever it likes.

[Mozz71]

It will be interesting to see how honest Auntie is going to be in their role in Savile's activities. It's pretty much proven that Savile's paedophilia was an open secret within the organisation. Are they willing to accept guilt or will they sugarcoat their role?

The whole idea stinks imo.

[JimF]

They will need to be very careful in how they spin it, especially if it can be proven that one or more individuals not only knew about Savile's activities but actively helped him conceal them would, I think, be liable to criminal prosecution as an accessory after the fact.

[tomus42]

// Will you watch it? //

No. I always changed channels as soon as he appeared in real life and I've got no reason to change that policy for the fictional version.

This seems distasteful. I'd watch a documentary that explored the reasons everyone turned a blind eye to it at the time, and named and shamed where appropriate, but a 'drama' about it feels wrong.

[piggynose]

Is Gary Glitter next?

[emmie]

he is long dead, and should remain out of the public eye tv wise,
can't see any sense in having programmes like this at all

[Mozz71]

//Is Gary Glitter next?//

I remember a show called The Trial of Gary Glitter, which either Channel 4 or 5 did, where he was put on trial for his crimes and sentenced to death. It was bloody awful.

[douglas9401]

Sackcloth and ashes, dahlings, sackcloth and ashes.

[ichkeria]

Yes I’d watch it.
Whatever not. It’s the best way of finding stuff out

[ichkeria]

Louis Theroux is great but his celebrated documentary on Savile was very frustrating. He failed to get into the man, who if anything was even more of an enigma after it then before. His normal method of interviewing simply didn’t work with that subject.
There’s an interesting scene in it where Theroux goes off to bed early and leaves one if his crew up talking with Savile. It turns out in the morning to have been the most revealing part of the film - or would have been had any of it been shown

[jno]

there's been a recent series about Dennis Nilsen; was anyone making the same arguments against it?

I didn't watch that, I won't be watching this.