ChatterBank1 min ago
Please Can I Ask A Reasonable Question?
The Chairman of the FA has resigned after making two bad comments
He referred to coloured players as black?
And said being Gay was a lifestyle choice
What has he done to create the anti race lobby to go into meltdown by saying it was racist calling a coloured player Black when the coloured people themselves created BLACK LIVES MATTER
On the second remark, I agree he's bang out of order to suggest being Gay is a lifestyle choice, it isn't !!!
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He referred to coloured players as black?
And said being Gay was a lifestyle choice
What has he done to create the anti race lobby to go into meltdown by saying it was racist calling a coloured player Black when the coloured people themselves created BLACK LIVES MATTER
On the second remark, I agree he's bang out of order to suggest being Gay is a lifestyle choice, it isn't !!!
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Peter - // o god Andy stab delete mode then
my model was the divine oscar - a man who calls a spade a spade should learn how to use one
the divine oscar being an old boy of Portora - you will instantly identify as northern irish protestant
and spade being the implement the irish used in farming by the hem hem lower classes //
trust you to highlight a meaning of the seventies //
Calm down, I didn't 'highlight' anything - you appear to have misunderstood my point, which was that the FA chairman does not have the luxury of using outdated language in a public form.
Here's a novel idea - if you don't want to run the risk of you misunderstanding a valid response to your post, why don't you try writing in plain English like everyone else on here, instead of coming over like someone who has English as a fourth language?
// I mean while contemplated Esperanza - wilde's mother who was a society hostess and wrote under that pseudonym - and then his father eminent ENT surgeon who described the wilde incision for mastoid surgery ( sqad will know) //
I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about so I will do as i do with almost everything you write, and simply pass it over as nonsense.
// I float on an altogether higher plane //
That's a seriously unjustified explanation for what you do!!!!
my model was the divine oscar - a man who calls a spade a spade should learn how to use one
the divine oscar being an old boy of Portora - you will instantly identify as northern irish protestant
and spade being the implement the irish used in farming by the hem hem lower classes //
trust you to highlight a meaning of the seventies //
Calm down, I didn't 'highlight' anything - you appear to have misunderstood my point, which was that the FA chairman does not have the luxury of using outdated language in a public form.
Here's a novel idea - if you don't want to run the risk of you misunderstanding a valid response to your post, why don't you try writing in plain English like everyone else on here, instead of coming over like someone who has English as a fourth language?
// I mean while contemplated Esperanza - wilde's mother who was a society hostess and wrote under that pseudonym - and then his father eminent ENT surgeon who described the wilde incision for mastoid surgery ( sqad will know) //
I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about so I will do as i do with almost everything you write, and simply pass it over as nonsense.
// I float on an altogether higher plane //
That's a seriously unjustified explanation for what you do!!!!
fiveleaves - // "People of colour" and a "coloured person" mean exactly the same thing. English puts an adjective before the noun, wheras French puts it afterwards. A green apple, un pomme vert means the same thing //
The vital aspect about using language is context and interpretation.
You can refer to a black person as 'coloured' and be grammatically correct, because a black person is coloured, and that colour is a shade of black.
But being grammatically correct while simultaneously ignoring the cultural impact of the term you are using means that you are putting the importance of language over and above the interpretation and meaning of the language you are using.
If you live on an island, or a high-level academic institution where such things are more important, then you can do that with no problem.
But in the real world, where the majority of people live, and speak, and understand each other, living in a society gives you the responsibility of sensitivity to its attitudes, and not giving gratuitous offence simply in order to be right.
You could use the term 'nigra' and argue that is it the result of the corruption of the word '***' by the accent enjoyed by Americans from the southern states - and you would be quite right, gramatically.
But try using it on a street corner in Harlem, and see how important being 'right' is when you balance it against the very real possibility of being hospitalised by any of members of the public around who heard you!
The vital aspect about using language is context and interpretation.
You can refer to a black person as 'coloured' and be grammatically correct, because a black person is coloured, and that colour is a shade of black.
But being grammatically correct while simultaneously ignoring the cultural impact of the term you are using means that you are putting the importance of language over and above the interpretation and meaning of the language you are using.
If you live on an island, or a high-level academic institution where such things are more important, then you can do that with no problem.
But in the real world, where the majority of people live, and speak, and understand each other, living in a society gives you the responsibility of sensitivity to its attitudes, and not giving gratuitous offence simply in order to be right.
You could use the term 'nigra' and argue that is it the result of the corruption of the word '***' by the accent enjoyed by Americans from the southern states - and you would be quite right, gramatically.
But try using it on a street corner in Harlem, and see how important being 'right' is when you balance it against the very real possibility of being hospitalised by any of members of the public around who heard you!
bodker - // Scared to open your mouth because whatever you say it's going to offend someone , life is too short ! //
The media makes far more of an issue of this nonsense that is necessary because it pumps people up and sells papers.
I have lived my entire life using my basic sensitivity to the people around me to avoid speaking with offence, and on occasions where I do so unwittingly, a simple apology corrects any misunderstanding.
I suspect that virtually every other sensible person lives their life the same way - and people who are too busy being 'woke' and seeing offence where none exists, simply have too high an opinion of their own importance, and too much time on their hands.
The media makes far more of an issue of this nonsense that is necessary because it pumps people up and sells papers.
I have lived my entire life using my basic sensitivity to the people around me to avoid speaking with offence, and on occasions where I do so unwittingly, a simple apology corrects any misunderstanding.
I suspect that virtually every other sensible person lives their life the same way - and people who are too busy being 'woke' and seeing offence where none exists, simply have too high an opinion of their own importance, and too much time on their hands.
