Public Sector Pay Freeze

[diddlydo]

You couldn't make it up could you? Yesterday the government pledged to splurge billions on machines of war and today it's freezing the pay of those people we need most.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55011477

Does this government have ANY moral scruples?

[dannyk13]

The topic of spending on the armed forces budget was covered yesterday. All rather boring.

[bobbinwales]

Did you post about this to thank your goverment in July diddledo
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-53478404

But sorry to nitpick but the goverment hasnt said it will freeze pay tho. What Rickie Shunak said was "interest of fairness we must exercise restraint in future public sector pay awards, ensuring that across this year and the spending review period, public sector pay levels retain parity with the private sector".
Sounds fair enough. Many of us in the private sector have lost jobs or been furlough'd on 80% (not me true) whereas the public sector workers got 100% and some like teachers had a lot of time off on full pay.
No. a don't want a freeze and certainly not on are NHS staff but agree with Mr Shunak about restraint

[diddlydo]

I don't know where you got the idea from that teachers "had a lot of time off on full pay" - they emphatically did not! They were working harder than ever when schools were shut - delivering lessons online, setting up work so that children could learn from home etc etc. It was very stressful for them and continues to be so now that schools are back and trying to make education Covid safe.

[bobbinwales]

Are neices and nephews schools the teachers took turns and the classes didnt get work everyday. A freind is a primary school teacher and just did two days a week on full times pay. She said most students didnt do the set work anyway.

But its only my experiance. If you know better fair enough. A know teachers are working hard now as there teaching kids at school and at home and have to keep catching up on missed lesson's.

[bobbinwales]

Anyway a see you changed the subject to avoid the point your posts claim was false //Yesterday the government pledged to splurge billions on machines of war and today it's freezing the pay of those people we need most.//
You says //You couldn't make it up could you?//. Well look's like you just did. LOL LOL LOL

[emmie]

as Danny said this was covered in yesterday post. Some don't agree with spending any money on defence at all, that's absurd.

[bobbinwales]

It was emmie - just seen yesterdays posts on there, but my answer here relates to diddldos scaremongery and made up exaggarated story about pay freezes 'of those we need most'

[emmie]

indeed Bobbin...

[dannyk13]

Also it was stated that doctors and nurses would be exempt from any pay freeze.

[diddlydo]

I suggest you read the article properly rather than accuse me of scaremongering. Bobbinwales - there are clearly some rubbish schools in Wales if what you describe is true.

[MartinMillar]

My public sector hasn’t had a pay rise in nearly 15 years!

[emmie]

which is a disgrace, what sector are you in?

[MartinMillar]

Hmrc even with my recent promotion I am earning less than 10 years ago

[emmie]

could you not have found a better paid job in private sector........

[MartinMillar]

I love my job and have invested too many years in a career

[Jackdaw33]

So the Civil Service have not had a pay rise in 15 years? I find that hard to swallow.

[emmie]

i can't imagine not getting a pay rise for that long.....

[bobbinwales]

//I suggest you read the article properly rather than accuse me of scaremongering. //

OK a read it again. Still cant see where the goverment has said it will freeze pay. Just a refrence to a rightwing thinktank CPS which as suggested it, just as am sure union think tanks have suggested pay increases to attract more staff.

If you can find an actual sentence or paragrath tho to support your claim please post it and am happy to read it and comment.

[MartinMillar]

I didn’t say the civil service I said the sector I work in so for me as I am top of my pay band have not had a pay rise and due to change in regulations myself and colleagues actually earn less

[emmie]

sorry i would swap jobs. No one should be earning less.