Public Sector Pay Freeze

[diddlydo]

You couldn't make it up could you? Yesterday the government pledged to splurge billions on machines of war and today it's freezing the pay of those people we need most.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55011477

Does this government have ANY moral scruples?

[MartinMillar]

Emmie, not so simple to find another job just like that.

[diddlydo]

Bobbinwales - try this paragraph if the whole article is too long for you:
The Treasury declined to comment but pointed to language used by Mr Sunak in a letter about the Spending Review in July.

The letter outlined that in the "interest of fairness we must exercise restraint in future public sector pay awards, ensuring that across this year and the spending review period, public sector pay levels retain parity with the private sector".

The Treasury has also taken interest in a report by think tank Centre for Policy Studies that suggested a three-year freeze could save £23bn by 2023, or £15bn if NHS workers were exempt.

[ToraToraTora]

yawn, you found any brexiteers in Oxford yet?

[bobbinwales]

Yes a seen those and commented on them. In fact see my post and youll see a gave the same quote from Rickie Shunak No mention that the goverments going to freeze pay.
The final paragraph about the treasury taking an intrest is meaningless and unsubstanshiated and isnt a policy decision or committment is it.

[youngmafbog]

You are correct BobbinWales. At the moment the Government has not committed to this.

Having said that surely the Government do have to do something. Most Civil servants continued to receive full pay whilst off and still have relatively secure employment. Compare that to the private sector where people suffered heavily financially (especially the self employed) and now are see savage job cuts in some sectors. These are the people that pay the civil servants so I'd suggest the moaning about a pay freeze wont go down too well.

[ToraToraTora]

Yes YMB good point the public sector at least have continued on full pay regardless. It's the private sector who have suffered, odd that it's them that pay for the public sector. If you want to have a moan diddly it's the private sector you should be going on about.

[bobbinwales]

For me would rarther they limit rises to say 1 or 2% but increase tax at some stage by maybe 5 pence in the pound so those who earn full pay and better off pensioner's on guaranteed pensions will pay more but those in the private sector who have took pay cuts or been furloughed or lost there jobs alltogether wont pay more tax.

[MartinMillar]

Don’t civil servants pay taxes too?
You seem under the impression that all civil servants have been off since Covid started and that’s not true

[ToraToraTora]

MartinMillar: "Don’t civil servants pay taxes too? " - well yes but 100% of their salary is already from the tax paid by the private sector. So in effect all tax is paid by the private sector.
"You seem under the impression that all civil servants have been off since Covid started and that’s not true " - where did I say that? I said they were getting paid throughout the crisis.

[gulliver1]

08.08 What would you swap your job for then Emmie.

[naomi24]

The BBC is calling it a ‘pay freeze’ as are the unions, but as far as I can see from the link the government hasn’t said that. It’s said it will align public sector pay increases or otherwise with the private sector, which seems reasonable…. doesn’t it?

//Yesterday the government pledged to splurge billions on machines of war //

No it didn't.

[Bobbisox1]

Just been listening to a debate saying they are spending billions on defence but not the type we know, it's Cyber warfare as we're under constant attack from China,Russia and N Korea ,especially our NHS , I'm more than happy that they're protecting us and that !!!

[emmie]

i don't need to diddly, i did when i was working, swapped for a higher paid one, no one should stay the same for 15 years.

[emmie]

i loved my job, but due to ill health and the fact that the company i worked for went into liquidation eventually, i was made redundant.

[gulliver1]

09.46 Yes it did.

[Bobbisox1]

Gulliver define 'machines of war'

[naomi24]

No it didn't. See bobbi's post at 09:52 Fri. Read and learn. The OP says 'You couldn't make it up' - but she does - as do you, Gulliver.

[gulliver1]

10.10 , Eh .

[gulliver1]

10.22 ,Take those Blinkers off Naomi ,and stop looking down that tunnel.