30 Years Ago Today

[Canary42]

30 years ago we were still an adventurous and outward looking nation who did stuff like build the Channel Tunnel.

Now we've degenerated into a frightened, myopic, and inwards looking nation, intent on hiding away behind trade barriers we've erected against our European neighbours (no matter the harm to our own economy we're inflicting in the process).

https://ibb.co/Br3t62R

[emmie]

was it all it was cracked up to be 30 years ago. Just asking...

[New Judge]

We've done that, Zacs.

I must say I'm very disappointed and wished I hadn't voted the way I did because I thought I would be able to buy proper light bulbs by now. But I still can't! :-)

On a more serious note, one way it may influence people's lives is that the UK authorities have passed the Covid vaccine for use here. The EU has not. Whether that situation will last very long, who knows, but it's nice to know that such an important matter is under our control.

[ToraToraTora]

untitled: "The bendy bananas thing you mentioned is a myth by the way" - EUSSR reg 2257/94 defines the curvature of bananas, look it up in your big boys book of the EUSSR.

[ToraToraTora]

unititled: //"What a melodramatic thing to say. How on earth were the EU "subjugating" us? //
- EUSSR law is supreme
- EUSSR courts override our own
- We have to pay for the privilege
- EUSSR regs are foisted on us in a one size fits all
- The unelected Junta rule as despots overriding our own elected parliament
- the ultimate aim of the EUSSR is to become the USE.
.....enough?

[ToraToraTora]

ZM: "'ve asked Tora (and many others) why they think the EU 'Overlords' (a ToraToraTora title) subjugated us. I never received a sensible answer so, good luck." - said it many times but see above.

[Untitled]

//You should not make assumptions that you clearly cannot substantiate//

I did substantiate it with a poll, which is more than the people who disagree have done. And talking about yourself is not relevant because you are one person. It is obvious to anyone who is not obsessed with defending Brexit that the main sentiment behind it was anti-immigration.

[emmie]

i wanted out of the EU for myriad reasons, as i am sure many did.

[emmie]

it wasn't all about immigration, some yes but not all

[Untitled]

" EUSSR law is supreme
- EUSSR courts override our own
- We have to pay for the privilege
- EUSSR regs are foisted on us in a one size fits all"

Except that we were on the council. Were we oppressing ourselves? If so, give examples. What measures introduced by the EU were oppressing the UK? In particular something which makes all this fuss and mess really worth it.

"EUSSR reg 2257/94 defines the curvature of bananas, look it up in your big boys book of the EUSSR."

It categorises bananas, it doesn't regulate them or control their sale. Oh dear, how oppressive. I wonder how on earth the peoples of Europe can cope under such tyranny.

[emmie]

as i stated much earlier how did Britain cope before we became part of the EEC.

[emmie]

the aim is for a European super state, fine, but lets not be part of it.

[Untitled]

I wasn't around back then but weren't we the "sick man of europe" in the 60s/70s? I don't think joining the eec solved that mind but its obvious things were not peachy.

[emmie]

When was Britain the sick man of Europe?

Throughout the late 1960s and 1970s, the United Kingdom was frequently called the "sick man of Europe", first by foreign commentators, and later at home by critics of the third Wilson / Callaghan ministry, because of industrial strife and poor economic performance compared to other European countries. Aug

[emmie]

i was around then and it was dire for a lot of the time

[ToraToraTora]

untitled: "Except that we were on the council" - yes 1 of 28 and it has virtually no power, all the power is in the unelected commission.

[ToraToraTora]

untitled: "It categorises bananas, it doesn't regulate them or control their sale." - it's a regulation, geddit, regulation means it's a rule to be adhered to, from wikipedia:
//Commission Regulation (EC) No. 2257/94 of 16 September 1994 laying down quality standards for bananas, sometimes referred to in the media as the bendy banana law, is a European Union regulation specifying classification standards for bananas//
:
//This regulation requires that bananas as a minimum standard must not have "abnormal curvature"//
What little knowledge you seem to have about the entity you wish to be ruled by.

"Oh dear, how oppressive. I wonder how on earth the peoples of Europe can cope under such tyranny. " - indeed, hopefully the other nations will see how well we do outside and follow suit, then the whole sorry edifice will come crashing down.

[Untitled]

From the same page:

//Only Extra class bananas have to comply fully with the shape specifications.//

So it is just categorization. How little knowledge or reading comprehension you seem to have.

[Untitled]

"then the whole sorry edifice will come crashing down. "

I think our Union is in much greater peril than theirs. But that's because of people like you who call everyone else "anti-British" yet don't care at all about preserving the Union of Great Britain.

[Untitled]

What a strange world we live in. The "Anti-British" are the ones who want Britain as a country to keep existing!

[Zacs-Master]

Straaaaange 'logic' from the leave voters, eh!