We're These Women Out Of Order

[piggynose]

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-england-derbyshire-55560814

[david small]

Personally I am ashamed of some of our police farce.
I wonder what retro would have to say.

[bobbinwales]

1325 deaths is the figure for today. Tragic, Doubtful most had been to parties. Most probly thought they were operating pretty much within the guidelines. It only takes a few seconds being off guard- filling up a at a petrol station, stopping to pick up a Costa coffee perhaps without a mask who knows, meeting up with a friend. And maybe theyd met up with someone else previously just for 5 minutes. Its spread so easily. Stick to the guidelines. Stay in where possible, walk locally on your own if possable

[douglas9401]

Something about a gift he was given by the sainted Diana I imagine.

Either that or a lot of stuff about guns and not suffering fools gladly.

[Deskdiary]

It's the language used that irritates the bejesus out of me, like "blood on their hands" - this sort of unnecessary hyperbolic language conjures-up images of a stabbing rampage - not a couple of women going for a stroll.

It's absurd.

[TonyV]

Bobbi it surprises me why people have to travel to get some fresh air, plenty of it outside

[tiggerblue10]

What Bobbin said plus the nearly 69k new infections in the last 24 hours. Doesn't take much with this new variant.

[Deskdiary]

While I'm on my high horse, what the hell has something "not in the spirit of lockdown" got to do with dibble. It's either legal, in which case it's got naff all to do with the police, or it's illegal, in which case it does.

The women concerned have done nothing illegal, so the "spirit of lockdown" from the POV of plod is utterly and completely irrelevant.

[Stickybottle]

Thanks to the likes of Deskdiary and that sort of attitude the figures will continue to rise and numbers of infections grow.
I wonder how many people said ‘it’s just a’ when talking about a cough, headache or feeling breathless only to die within days.
Over 60,000 now I believe.

[Sunk]

// we brought our own drinks with us. He said 'You can't do that as it's classed as a picnic'. //

This is just barmy. You can’t take a flask of a warm drink with you on a walk on a freezing day?
This is a disgraceful power grab, assuming powers that do not exist, harassing the public that are within their rights to walk five miles from their homes. The £400 fines should be immediately refunded, and the unthinking dullards who administered them told to apologise.

[Stickybottle]

Anyone siding with these idiots needs to take a look at Bobbis thread about her relatives and tell her that it’s not serious and we can all just do as we please.

[bobbinwales]

Latest figure stickeybottle

Deaths within 28 days of positive test
Daily
1,325
Abstract information: Daily number of deaths within 28 days of first positive test, reported on Friday, 8 January 2021.

Total
79,833

[Stickybottle]

Thank you bobbinwsles

[Sunk]

// Anyone siding with these idiots needs to take a look at Bobbis thread about her relatives and tell her that it’s not serious and we can all just do as we please. //

They were not idiots, they were obeying the guidance which says they can go for a walk together locally. They were acting lawfully.

[Deskdiary]

Stickybottle provides a false equivalency and then follows it up with an assumption that people who find the situation in the link absurd should consider another member's experience.

A very very poor argument from Stickybottle (natch).

I know this is serious, other than the idiots who think it's a hoax, everybody knows this is serious, but, but, two women going for a socially distanced walk is not serious, it will not result in "blood on their hands" and will not "... put other humans' lives at risk". Get a grip.

If they were going around spitting in the eyes of passers-by, you'd have a point, but as they weren't, you don't.

[Stickybottle]

walk is not serious, it will not result in "blood on their hands" and will not "... put other humans' lives at risk". Get a grip

Show me where I said any of that.

[bobbinwales]

If the fine was unreasonable they could appeal it and get legal advice maybe paid by crowdfunding and would probly be successful in appeal. Rita Ora wasnt fined. Piers Corbyn was released without charge. But my guess is they will accept it. Agree that the legal position needs clarifying- needs to be in law perhaps with a figure for acceptable journey length- or police should be told just to turn people back

[Deskdiary]

Show me where I did say that you said that.

[Sunk]

Stickybottle

Why were they idiots?

They could have been idling around a supermarket with two or three hundred other essential shoppers.
Instead they went for a walk and ended up hundreds of pounds poorer.

[Deskdiary]

^^^I’m looking forward to the answer to that question.

[Deskdiary]

Tumbleweed.....