ChatterBank7 mins ago
Fake News From The Bbc
In a pathetic attempt to spread 'bad news' about what they consider to be the 'mistake of Brexit', the Beeb has been showing 4-month old pictures of hold-ups at the channel ports, hold-ups which at the time were in fact caused by the French.
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I think that you may have missed the real irony when only a day or so after Christmas this was said in an interview ... "" Traditional journalism has been playing catch-up in the disinformati on world. ‘News sources such as the BBC need to work harder than ever to expose fake news and separate fact from fiction,’ he said. ‘We need to take care that trusted news is...
11:21 Sat 09th Jan 2021
allenlondon,
I feel a bit sorry for Khandro and Togo et al.
They genuinely believe the BBC is biased and they pounce on a story like the one on Guido that purports to give them evidence of bias.
Unfortunately the story doesn’t stand up. The photo on Faisal Islam’s story was clearly labelled as a a library photo from Getty Images. It wasn’t captioned pretending to be current. Islam’s story was essentially about Traders fearing about the changers will in future cause delay with extra form filling and more documentation. Using a stock photo of a queue of lorries to illustrate hold ups is fine. It fitted the story, it was not biased.
Guido then claimed the photo was replaced. But the supposed new photo was in fact another stock photo used to illustrate an entirely different report not by Faisal Islam.
Guido are the ones guilty of fake news, the story isn’t true. They did not include any links to the before and after story, so people could not compare for themselves. If they had, it would have been easy for Khandro and Togo to see the Guido comparison was of two different reports having different photos, not one photo being change because it was old.
I feel a bit sorry for Khandro and Togo et al.
They genuinely believe the BBC is biased and they pounce on a story like the one on Guido that purports to give them evidence of bias.
Unfortunately the story doesn’t stand up. The photo on Faisal Islam’s story was clearly labelled as a a library photo from Getty Images. It wasn’t captioned pretending to be current. Islam’s story was essentially about Traders fearing about the changers will in future cause delay with extra form filling and more documentation. Using a stock photo of a queue of lorries to illustrate hold ups is fine. It fitted the story, it was not biased.
Guido then claimed the photo was replaced. But the supposed new photo was in fact another stock photo used to illustrate an entirely different report not by Faisal Islam.
Guido are the ones guilty of fake news, the story isn’t true. They did not include any links to the before and after story, so people could not compare for themselves. If they had, it would have been easy for Khandro and Togo to see the Guido comparison was of two different reports having different photos, not one photo being change because it was old.
sunk; You seem to be attempting to go for a PHD on this subject, but I'm afraid you'll be lucky to get a third.
You seen to be constantly ignoring the point that the headline yesterday stated “Problems Grow at UK Ports With Backlogs and Delays” accompanied by a picture of trucks in long queues.,
This was not TRUE, regardless of the oringins of the highly misleading picture, it was therefore 'Fake News'.
Give it a rest!
You seen to be constantly ignoring the point that the headline yesterday stated “Problems Grow at UK Ports With Backlogs and Delays” accompanied by a picture of trucks in long queues.,
This was not TRUE, regardless of the oringins of the highly misleading picture, it was therefore 'Fake News'.
Give it a rest!
The publicly funded BBC has a duty to report from a position of neutrality and, wherever the picture came from, the article in question should have made it clear that the image wasn’t representative of the current situation - but it didn’t. The BBC is now so agenda-driven that it's in danger of losing any remaining vestige of balance it might still possess, thereby causing irreparable damage to its own well-being.
If we generously take the OP at face value, even then it's not "fake news", it's "misleading photo".
Which wouldn't be all that surprising. The BBC produces a ton of news. It's isn't always going to be perfect. But at least it tries!
And it publishes, for all to read, a hugely detailed website covering its editorial guidelines and standards:
https:/ /www.bb c.co.uk /editor ialguid elines/ guideli nes
Does your news source do that?
Which wouldn't be all that surprising. The BBC produces a ton of news. It's isn't always going to be perfect. But at least it tries!
And it publishes, for all to read, a hugely detailed website covering its editorial guidelines and standards:
https:/
Does your news source do that?
I must declare myself a little confused....
I have opened and read the articles linked to by Sunk (I am ignoring the photographs) and can say the following;
https:/ /mercad osyregi ones.co m/2021/ 01/08/b rexit-f irms-wa rn-of-p roblems -as-new -eu-tra de-rule s-kick- in/
is a virtual c&P of
https:/ /paperd abba.co m/2021/ 01/08/b rexit-p roblems -grow-a t-uk-po rts-wit h-backl ogs-and -delays /
and, indeed, right at the bottom has a clickable link [i]Para ver noticia original, haga clic aquí[i] which takes the reader to this page,
https:/ /www.bb c.co.uk /news/b usiness -555832 44
However, I think most sensible people will be able to read the words and reach their own conclusions on the state of affairs rather than taking their opinions solely from the photographs.
I have opened and read the articles linked to by Sunk (I am ignoring the photographs) and can say the following;
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is a virtual c&P of
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and, indeed, right at the bottom has a clickable link [i]Para ver noticia original, haga clic aquí[i] which takes the reader to this page,
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However, I think most sensible people will be able to read the words and reach their own conclusions on the state of affairs rather than taking their opinions solely from the photographs.
The issue is (to me at least) not with the BBC, but with the expectations of the viewers. The both sides of the political spectrum don't seem to want unbiased opinion, they want opinions that supports their own views. Because of this, when they are presented with press neutrality, they instead see bias against them.
The only way they will be satisfied is if we end up with our own versions of Fox News and CNN, both so biased towards the right and left respectively, that it's difficult to take either seriously. The written press has been that way for years years, now it seems that the visual press is going to follow suit.
The only way they will be satisfied is if we end up with our own versions of Fox News and CNN, both so biased towards the right and left respectively, that it's difficult to take either seriously. The written press has been that way for years years, now it seems that the visual press is going to follow suit.
Well, I think you're flogging a dead horse in this instance K. It's already been established in this thread that the website was using a stock photo, and the report never claimed that it was anything but. That's not to say that there has been misleading* reporting from all platforms, the Beeb included, in the past.
Show me a news media platform less unbiased and I'll be pleasantly surprised.
*misleading = bare faced lies
Show me a news media platform less unbiased and I'll be pleasantly surprised.
*misleading = bare faced lies
Mozz: //It's already been established in this thread that the website was using a stock photo,//
Yes, but having Getty images in small pront at the bottom means not a lot to most readers. What it should have done is also said that it was a photograph taken 4 months ago in September when the lorries were held up because of French strikers. There is no doubt that the intention was to mislead.
Yes, but having Getty images in small pront at the bottom means not a lot to most readers. What it should have done is also said that it was a photograph taken 4 months ago in September when the lorries were held up because of French strikers. There is no doubt that the intention was to mislead.
Khandro,
The photo credit wasn’t in small print at the bottom, it was at the top before the first paragraph. You wouldn’t know because Guido cropped the picture so the photo credit could not be seen.
// Brexit: Problems grow at UK ports with backlogs and delays
By Faisal Islam Economics editor
Published duration1 hour ago
image copyright Getty Images
British retailers are concerned at new trade barriers being applied after last month’s trade deal... //
The photo credit wasn’t in small print at the bottom, it was at the top before the first paragraph. You wouldn’t know because Guido cropped the picture so the photo credit could not be seen.
// Brexit: Problems grow at UK ports with backlogs and delays
By Faisal Islam Economics editor
Published duration1 hour ago
image copyright Getty Images
British retailers are concerned at new trade barriers being applied after last month’s trade deal... //
sunk: I can only reiterate: 'You seem to be constantly ignoring the point that the headline yesterday stated “Problems Grow at UK Ports With Backlogs and Delays” accompanied by a picture of trucks in long queues.
This was not TRUE, regardless of the oringins of the highly misleading picture, it was therefore 'Fake News'.'
The average person, 'the man on the Clapham omnibus' reading that headline & seeing that picture would assume (& the BBC wanted him to assume) that he was looking at facts, but he was looking, on both counts, at a fabrication.
If you don't see that, I can only assume you are from another planet.
This was not TRUE, regardless of the oringins of the highly misleading picture, it was therefore 'Fake News'.'
The average person, 'the man on the Clapham omnibus' reading that headline & seeing that picture would assume (& the BBC wanted him to assume) that he was looking at facts, but he was looking, on both counts, at a fabrication.
If you don't see that, I can only assume you are from another planet.