Am I Right To Be Feeling This Way?
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from the woman who wants to ignore the once in a generation referendum in 2014!
from the woman who wants to ignore the once in a generation referendum in 2014!
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If she is going to hold a referendum she should be prepared to lay out for the Scottish population what it would mean if she was successful. For example how would she fund the Health Service, Police and emergency services. Where would the money come from for her to continue offer free prescription
15:31 Sun 24th Jan 2021
Rather than pointless potshots at the SNP, who I don’t care for either, you’d be better employed thinking how Scotland might be persuaded to steer away from the independence path. Or at least to reduce the clamour for a referendum.
Like it or not the SNP is likely to sweep the board at the next election. At the moment I don’t think Sturgeon really wants another referendum but that might change after that election.
Like it or not the SNP is likely to sweep the board at the next election. At the moment I don’t think Sturgeon really wants another referendum but that might change after that election.
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> you’d be better employed thinking how Scotland might be persuaded to steer away from the independence path
Problem is that if 45% want independence and the SNP is the only party offering it, they get a baked-in head start at each election that they have to work pretty hard to lose. And while the leader always comes from the party founded on delivering independence, independence is never going to be steered away from.
Problem is that if 45% want independence and the SNP is the only party offering it, they get a baked-in head start at each election that they have to work pretty hard to lose. And while the leader always comes from the party founded on delivering independence, independence is never going to be steered away from.
The SNP’s main argument for a second referendum so soon after the last is Brexit. Let's have a look at that.
When the Scots voted in their referendum in September 2014 thoughts had indeed been given to a referendum on EU membership and they should have been well aware of it. Ignoring the fact that the question of the UK’s EU membership had been bubbling under (and repressed) for twenty years, in January 2013 David Cameron announced that he would attempt to re-negotiate Britain's terms of membership before holding an in-out referendum no later than two years after the next general election – should he still be Prime Minister. The next GE was due in May 2015. The Conservative party won the GE and Mr Cameron duly went to the EU with his requests for revised terms. He asked for next to nothing and came away with somewhat less than that. But true to his word the referendum was held in June 2016.
So, when the Scots voted in their independence referendum (a) a referendum on EU membership was very likely and (b) there was a very good chance the electorate would choose to leave. To say they were not aware of that likelihood is disingenuous.
When the Scots voted in their referendum in September 2014 thoughts had indeed been given to a referendum on EU membership and they should have been well aware of it. Ignoring the fact that the question of the UK’s EU membership had been bubbling under (and repressed) for twenty years, in January 2013 David Cameron announced that he would attempt to re-negotiate Britain's terms of membership before holding an in-out referendum no later than two years after the next general election – should he still be Prime Minister. The next GE was due in May 2015. The Conservative party won the GE and Mr Cameron duly went to the EU with his requests for revised terms. He asked for next to nothing and came away with somewhat less than that. But true to his word the referendum was held in June 2016.
So, when the Scots voted in their independence referendum (a) a referendum on EU membership was very likely and (b) there was a very good chance the electorate would choose to leave. To say they were not aware of that likelihood is disingenuous.
> If the result of the Brexit referendum had gone the other way, do you think Farage would have accepted it, shrugged his shoulders and gone back to whatever he did before?
We know the answer to that, because early on Farage thought he had lost (52:48 oddly enough), and his response was something like "Oh that's so close, we must fight on."
But, "What Farage would do?" is not really a great line for the SNP ...
We know the answer to that, because early on Farage thought he had lost (52:48 oddly enough), and his response was something like "Oh that's so close, we must fight on."
But, "What Farage would do?" is not really a great line for the SNP ...
“ All in favour of letting the Scots go it alone. They're only ten per cent of the UK population and their central proposition, that they're going to be independent inside the EU, is a joke”
I’m maybe staying the obvious here, but when Scots covet independence it’s independence from England they mean.
Plainly any future independent Scotland WOULD be far more independent within the EU than they are now.
An easy proof of that fact is that it would be a lot easier for them to have a referendum in future to leave it ...
I’m maybe staying the obvious here, but when Scots covet independence it’s independence from England they mean.
Plainly any future independent Scotland WOULD be far more independent within the EU than they are now.
An easy proof of that fact is that it would be a lot easier for them to have a referendum in future to leave it ...
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