Should The Areas With Rising Covid Levels Be Put Into Much Stricter Restrictions

[Apc2604]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-56210665

There is evidence that in most of these areas the rise is due to to multiple occupation housing and poor vaccine take up. Should these areas have strictly controlled boundaries to protect others?

[Apc2604]

Tora, I like your optimism, but this virus is
here to stay. In the end we will learn to live with it and better protect ourselves. Better treatment and medication will come about and we will have normal lives. But I think masks are here to stay like they are in the East. No bad thing to protect ourselves from pollution. We are all doomed. But don't panic, don't panic! ;o)

[Stickybottle]

Apc2604
Question Author It is not legal to enforce vaccines and hopefully it never will be

The anti vaxxers will suddenly begin to change their minds when they want to go to Benidorm for Sharon’s hen do but until then let natural selection sort them out

[Apc2604]

I have a soft spot for Benidorm. It's where on one drunken night 50 years ago in a cafe in the old town we made the decision to get married. 50 years ago Benidorm was very different!!!!!

[New Judge]

//...and shopping for necessities could be within your area.//

Then the current legislation will have to be drastically altered. At present there is no mention of "necessities" or "areas". That would just leave the small matter of enforcement.

[woofgang]

if you are "letting people out" for any reason then the boundaries are breached...and if the boundaries are breached then what use are they?

[ladybirder]

Thanks for BA Apc. x

[New Judge]

//No bad thing to protect ourselves from pollution.//

Alas the face covering legislation as it stands will also have to be re-written if you want that protection. Face coverings worn by Joe Public provide virtually zero protection from incoming nasties. They are mandated (we are told) to prevent the wearer spreading his own nasties about.

There is a grave danger that the freedoms that have been summarily taken away in the name of an emergency will remain permanent when that emergency is over. Upwards of 20,000 people a year die of "ordinary" 'flu - each and every year. It is spread in much the same way as Covid. But I've never heard calls for face coverings to be worn permanently to mitigate that annual risk.

[TonyV]

When I was living in London in the 1990's masked were commonly worn because of air pollution

[mushroom25]

// the face covering legislation as it stands will also have to be re-written if you want that protection. //

"double masking" now recommended by "the science". Legislation for this won't be far behind.

[Apc2604]

Tony, I was born and bred in London and remember well the
1950s smogs. People used hankies Anne scarves and I went to primary school with a proper cotton medical mask. Mum got hold of them because she was a voluntary St Johns nurse.

[Apc2604]

And Scarves. Nothing to do with Anne!!

[teacake44]

Nj , I'm not to sure myself whether face masks work or not, but you are talking upwards of 20k die of flu, but we've had 120k so far die of covid and still going up.
But back to the masks as they stand at the moment, when they first came into the shops ( poor quality) I might add, they were commanding silly prices for such rubbish, they've almost reduced in price by 50%, this leads me to believe that to a degree the bottom has fell out the market, so what better than to re- invent the new singing and dancing mask.

In an earlier thread of mine I've mentioned Piers Morgan asking Matt Hancock why he awarded a PPE contract to one of his life long friends, this friend owns and runs his own pub, and has no connection in the supply or manufacture of PPE?
The contract was for 30 million, this is a hell of a lot of money, but not in terms of the amount that has been spent. So my question would be, why such a small amount awarded to a friend who is a publican, when at the beginning of this pandemic and most of the last 12 months they would not entertain small fry one man bands. This friends business experience is pulling pints at the bar., Well it was.

[emmie]

i don;t ever remember wearing masks in the past, and i too was born in the 50's in the capital. nor later on...

[fender62]

check there immigration status, maybe there afraid they will be deported, maybe tax fraud going on, house by house also finding out
how many actually live there, as was mentioned pakistanis live in almost complete closed cummunities parallel lives, with none speaking english and watching pakistani sat channels, also god channels saying it's a myth and allah will prevail.

[woofgang]

"double masking" now recommended by "the science". Legislation for this won't be far behind."

Not true. A minimum of two layers in your facecovering is recommended. No one in "the science" is recommending double masking.

[woofgang]

Apc I remember the smogs of the late 50's and into early 60's My primary school would close early and the teachers would "croc" us home through the streets. there were few home phones then so school kept an informal list of whose Mum's worked all day and who would take those children in until their Mum's got home.

[woofgang]

"When I was living in London in the 1990's masked were commonly worn because of air pollution"
Tony, which part was that? I had moved out by then but went back often and DH worked there. I don't remember ever seeing masks worn.

[Peter Pedant]

it wouldnt stop the spread within the boundaries would it?

[woofgang]

no PP but the virus would obey the law and not go past the armed guards

[Peter Pedant]

// "When I was living in London in the 1990's masked were commonly worn because of air pollution"//

masking doesnt work. we have known this for a long time