Should The Areas With Rising Covid Levels Be Put Into Much Stricter Restrictions

[Apc2604]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-56210665

There is evidence that in most of these areas the rise is due to to multiple occupation housing and poor vaccine take up. Should these areas have strictly controlled boundaries to protect others?

[dave50]

If they are refusing the vaccine then it is their fault only that infections are rising. Perhaps there should be controlled boundaries around these areas.

[Bobbisox1]

Personally I'd say Yes,it would be pointless opening everywhere up when the time comes if infection is on the rise in places like London and the South East which is the map marked red that I saw on last nights news

[woofgang]

no, instead the causes of HMO and poor vaccine takeup should be addressed....otherwise its Wuhan by another name where the sick and potentially sick were locked in and left to die.

[bobbinwales]

Its scary that rates are rising in some areas despite supposed lockdown's and the use of vaccines, and even scrier to think whats going to happen when schools go back and shops, hairdressers etc reopen

[bobbinwales]

Lots of efforts are been made to increase vaccinne take up among BAME communitys but there was another story yesterday showing only 30% of afro carribean are still taking it up. Someone gave the 3 main reasons/missconceptions and one was it was feared it reduces fertility- but noone ever asks why fertility as been a factor for over 60s!

[Apc2604]

Woofie, all very well, but the reasons are basically known and the communities are reluctant to take the required action. I am not suggesting anything like Wuhan where people were locked in there homes! I am suggesting much stricter boundary control.

[riptide]

And how do you propose we control the boundaries, an impossible task. These people should have more sense, if needs be vaccines should be made compulsory to avoid unnecessary deaths.

[dave50]

Some of the Asians in towns and cities are isolated from the wider population. They live, work and shop within their own communities, never venturing outside these areas, watching TV from their native countries via satalite. Consequently they have no need to learn English and are totally unaware what's going on in the world outside their communities.

[New Judge]

//Personally I'd say Yes,it would be pointless opening everywhere up when the time comes if infection is on the rise in places like London//

Infection rates are not increasing in London:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-54324244

You will see that only two of the 32 boroughs showed an increase. These were Islington and Tower Hamlets. Both increases were small (2 or 3 cases per 100k) meaning the increase was probably statistical "noise" and those two boroughs are near the bottom of the list of London boroughs anyway.

//I am suggesting much stricter boundary control.//

Absolutely impossible in large parts of the UK. I live almost on the border of my Local Authority. My nearest large shops (just over a mile away) are in the adjacent LA. The nearest shops in my own LA area are three times that distance. My nearest hospital (and where many of my neighbours have been called for their Covid jabs) is in the adjacent LA, a twenty minute walk. My "own" hospital is almost five miles away, two buses for those with no wheels. We don't do county boundaries.

[Apc2604]

The same as they have done in other countries Riptide, Spain for example. Extra policing on main roads and paperwork proving reason for travel - work, medical appointments etc. I don't propose locking people up. But it is obvious thst in these areas researching more on the reasons will take time and this needs short term action.

[ichkeria]

Personally, I don't think it would work, and I doubt it it has ever worked well anywhere, at least in a free country. Or perhaps where you are dealing with very small numbers, which these don't seem to be.

[New Judge]

So what paperwork will I need to go to my nearest shop, which is outside my LA area?

[Apc2604]

It is not legal to enforce vaccines and hopefully it never will be.

[Apc2604]

New judge. I am only proposing this for the areas where the numbers are rising and people would just have to cope for a short time with s change in their habits. It would inconvenience the few to protect the majority. As I said above hospital and doctors visits and work would be allowed and shopping for necessities could be within your area. The trouble is this country we are not accustomed to having limits or following rules. The government was too keen to please the people and not take action at the beginning of all this, but it has backfired.

[ToraToraTora]

TBH it should Fizzle out. Most sensible people will be vaccinated, the virus may spread through those that have not, they'll survive or not then we'll achieve herd immunity anyway. Eventually the virus will have nowhere to go.

[ladybirder]

Put all those who refuse to be vaccinated on ships and send them out to sea. They can't come back until they agree to be vaccinated, as they leave the ship!!!
How's that;-))

[Apc2604]

That's it LB send them over to France in Dingies!!! ;o)

[Apc2604]

And for that LB, you get a light-hearted best answer for bringing in some cheer!

[Apc2604]

You are right Dave. Sorry for late reply - an advert blocked your answer initially. There areas lot of Ghetto areas. They don't want to mix and many really don't know or want to know what is going on.

[douglas9401]

Burn a few at the stake, that'll show 'em.