A Reasonable Response Or Not?

[ichkeria]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-56404542

[DTCwordfan]

More for us - there are still 40 million to vaccinate first time, the sooner the better.

[Togo]

//Still glad I didn't have the A-Z and worry about my friend who did, and she is worried too.//

Your friend is still being frightened by the EUSSR. Project fear was always going to diversify.

[tiggerblue10]

A few people I've spoken to said that if you had the AZ vax then went on the suffer with flu like symptoms, may have unknowingly had covid in the past. Is that true? Sorry to change the subject.

[woofgang]

sqad, did you know it was recorded as an effect of Covid infection?
http://www.ajnr.org/content/early/2020/06/18/ajnr.A6644

[Sqad]

woofy... no,I didn't.

[woofgang]

Tiggerblue A few people I've spoken to said that if you had the AZ vax then went on the suffer with flu like symptoms, may have unknowingly had covid in the past. Is that true? Sorry to change the subject.

No. It may be more likely that a person who has had covid will get symtoms according to the Zoe research but, while Zoe has its uses, its self reported and unverified and you don't HAVE to report every day so there may be an element of self selection. https://covid.joinzoe.com/post/vaccine-after-effects-more-common-in-those-who-already-had-covid

[237SJ]

^ If it is an effect of Covid, why aren't we hearing about the same problems with the Pfizer jab?

[woofgang]

Sqad "woofy... no,I didn't."

makes a difference yes?

[bobbinwales]

//If it is an effect of Covid, why aren't we hearing about the same problems with the Pfizer jab?//
Are you assuming the jabs contain some of the covid virus, because they dont

[woofgang]

237sj, tha Zoe report is about Pfizer and Biontech....sorry Tiggs I thought it was any vaccine

[woofgang]

which again is interesting since it seems to be the AZ that gets the bad rection rep

[237SJ]

OK. Maybe one for scientists to answer and not Googlers on AB

[bobbinwales]

Anyway, there may be the same issue with those who have Pfizzer but as the numbers of blood clots are so low its likely the pattern hasnt been spotted for Pfeizzer yet

[woofgang]

bobbin...the lung and limb clot numbers are as normal, the cerebral clot, the rare nasty one, has been recorded as an outcome of covid infection. I posted a link about it.

[bobbinwales]

Am not sure how its been raised as a possible AZ link when cases are so few and blood clots occur in those who hav'nt had the jab too. It'll be intresting to see what they find but the numbers talked about are so low the outcome with either be fiuse anoyther vaccinne to be on the safe side or just carry on as any vaccinne even with a few bad reactions are better than getting covid

[bobbinwales]

Thanks woofgang but thats not something that was in my mind- too medical. I was answering the query about why its been raised as a issue with AZ but not phiezzer (yet?)

[bobbinwales]

woofgang- yes perhaps a should of said "alleged" issue as the reports I seen suggest that the link is negligable or non-existant

[Prudie]

"as any vaccinne even with a few bad reactions are better than getting covid" there it is again. Thousands and thousands have had and got through covid, I don't know how you can just sweep with that statement when there is the possibility, not yet proved, that a vaccine can give you a blood clot on the brain etc etc. It's so stubborn to not even begin to realise that some people will be worried.

[Bobbisox1]

Well I wasn't but thanks to this thread , I am now !

[woofgang]

I get that people will be worried. I try not to belittle people's worries but to post a link to facts so that maybe they will read the facts and the research and be a little less worried.