Tsk, Tsk Poor Euro ?

[Bobbisox1]

Stamping their feet till they get what they want because they were so slow out of the torsos

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/ursula-von-der-leyen-threatens-cut-off-covid-exports-uk-b924652.html

[ToraToraTora]

JD: "This is just one more example of Ms Lili von Stumpf," - that's brilliant!

[New Judge]

//I wonder if the boot was on the other foot, though, and we had not had the orders we were promised, despite maintaining exports, would we have been cross?//

They were not promised them. I've read the relevant parts of the AZ/EU contract and it made no promises and no contractual quantities or dates were itemised. It simply mentions "best efforts".

The reason the EU is short of vaccines is because, in its usual inimitable fashion, it prevaricated, argued over the price and overburdened the approval and purchase process with its ridiculous levels of bureaucracy. The worst thing EU nations did was to pass responsibility for procurement to the EU. Now, to put right their disastrous errors they are considering requisitioning or sequestrating goods made by a commercial company. They are not theirs to seize.

It's OK the behave the way they did when arguing over the supply of beetroot. It's not OK when health and lives are at stake. I have many friends on the Continent and they are tearing their hair out at the lunacy and ineptitude of it all. It should serve as a timely reminder to all of them that their interests are not best served by their nations' membership of the EU.

[Apc2604]

I think ichkeria that you haven't really realised the facts. Another good post from NJ.

[Bobbisox1]

NJ, likewise, I have friends living in Lanzarote who hope that the sheer lunacy of Spain's ruling body won't effect them, I also listened to LBC after ten on Monday night where Tom Swarbrick had messages from people in France ,Spain And Germany who as you say, are tearing their hair out over this

[Arrods]

Is there some 'court' we can approach in the event that she carries out the threat? Just wondering.

[naomi24]

Not for the first time the EU show their true colours … and yet some 'remain' determinedly colour blind.

[ichkeria]

“ Ich, why would you be cross over not receiving something you don't intend to use?”

If you had read my earlier posts: plainly they do intend to use it ..

[ichkeria]

NJ I’m not here to defend the EU’s handling of vaccines which has been very poor indeed.
That doesn’t mean they are not within their either to restrict exports. Of course the original move they made to interfere with the import arrangements for the UK (fearing in theory that the vaccine would arrive via the back door ie the Irish border) - was ridiculous end indeed pointless. But at least they themselves acknowledged that and there has been a very honest admission that the EU has not been best suited for this sort of planning. Of course there’s been nothing to stop EU members countries making their own arrangements and never has been.

[Togo]

I should think that their failure to handle this crisis will soon be the least of their worries. The latest sounds coming from the finance sector is that the Euro is in the doodah big time and likely to be worse than the crisis in 2010 when a decade of incompetence and spiralling debt brought the single currency to the edge of collapse. Financial experts fear that the health crisis will soon unravel into a financial crisis as well, due to Brussels' mishandling of the vaccine rollout. What with trashing property rights, and arbitrarily seizing vaccine production plants, which alone will make it virtually impossible for multi-nationals to invest in the zone, borrowing will soar within the bloc to finance and placate a restless populace into acceptance of lockdowns, and tax revenue falling off a cliff with spiralling deficit costs to finance. Investors in the bloc are likely to run a mile and the rest of the World, the UK included, will be open for business and hungry for results.

[jourdain2]

Togo 21.40 ... I've been reading about this today. Money is flooding out of the EU, it appears. I am really rubbish at money but 1 daughter is a chartered I.F.A. so I've tried to read the financial pages. One small headline reads 'Capital outflows from the eurozone reached half a trillion euros' and the accompanying graph shows a steep decline in investment. Doesn't sound good.

[Togo]

I have been watching it for a week or so now Jordain and it is becoming more obvious that whenever the market there takes another hit then the "political" statements and announcements are headlined by the "official press outlets". They will not be able to hide it for ever. We were the fruit machine that paid out for them every time they pulled the lever. The British politicians who went along with the scam should be rounded up and shot.

[Proper12]

What a mess. Brexit, the gift that keeps saving lives.

[ubasses]

According to this mornings Telegraph, Pfizer has warned Ursula Von Der Leyen that to carry on producing vaccines they need raw materials from the UK, which they are worried we will not send if she bans exports.
That should give her something to ponder on.

[Bobbisox1]

Nice one ubasses, I think she could be Eva Braun's granddaughter Haha

[Togo]

^^Apparently Brexit caused a global pandemic and rendered UVDL brainless. (Even her initials look like some sort of terror organisation)

[teacake44]

What your all missing is that the virus is not really the bigger problem, the virus has just started the ball rolling. What will finish us all off completely is the human to human conflict. It is showing the true color of human greed. The real battle is yet to start.

[lady-janine]

Am I correct in my understanding that they are now querying the Pfizer vaccine. Parts of the constituents are made in this country I think.

[Togo]

^^Just when you thought that things couldn't get anymore cheerful.

[Togo]

Not LJ.

[jourdain2]

Lady Jane - it appears that some vital lipid constituent is made in Staithes (N. Yorks.) which was formerly best known for it's school of Art - of which Owen Bowen (whose work I collect when I'm flush and have saved up for a year or 2). It's a picturesque little place and is probably saying 'Eh? What?' as it finds itself a pivotal centre of a power battle. :)