Yorkshire School Protest

[mushroom25]

oh dear.....
https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/local-news/live-angry-parent-protest-batley-20250996

the teacher must have known the likely reaction, and that it was likely to be a career ending move. why on earth.......???

[emmie]

no but they are so insular, Jewish Schools, shops, places of worship, no need to reach out to the populace at large -

[Togo]

Would anyone like to speculate, out loud, as to what they feel the "offended" because their religion demands it, are likely to think about ... say The best mode of dress for girls attending school?

[naomi24]

Indeed - but they’re asking no one to kowtow to their foibles or to afford them special treatment so I don’t see a problem with that.

[rowanwitch]

In my mind an image should only be considered offensive if it shows the degrading or abuse of a third party and was produced with the intention of causing titillation, or other pleasure, or for causing harm to the person shown by its distribution of threat of distribution.

[emmie]

the best mode of dress would be the school uniform.

as to Orthodox Jewish people, if only they would mix more, perhaps we could then understand where they are coming from.

[mushroom25]

// I think Muslims need to lighten up a bit. //

they will. just as soon as teacher has been relieved of his head.

[emmie]

mushroom that;s quite a chilling thing to say..

[lady-janine]

Should he have told the muslim pupils to leave the classroom as he was going to explain about and show images of mohmmad and explain they might find them offensive. I know a church of England school did this for Hindu and Jewish children in the school.

[emmie]

LJ, that would take out most of the class by the looks of it....

[lady-janine]

Naomi - The Jews don't generally make a fuss.'
Of course not, they know they are the Chosen Ones.

[emmie]

the rumpus this has caused is beyond comprehension....

[lady-janine]

That would be better than the situation they have now. As I understand the teacher was trying to explain blasphemy and if they are not willing to participate then they should exclude themselves. Their willingness to be constantly offended will ensure they continue to live in ignorance.

[emmie]

that last sentence is very apt.

[tiggerblue10]

Sick of this situation now. These people have made their feelings known so what more do they want with a second day of protests? Blood?

[andy-hughes]

Yet again this thread descends into cliché city, and everyone queues up to say more or less the same thing -

'They are intolerant, so why should we be tolerant, they expect us to bend over backwards to accommodate them, they don't accommodate us, they're the violent ones ....' and so on ad nauseum.

What people who fall into this cliched deeply incised track of one-way bigotry fail to do every time is look at what is actually happening, not what the media feed us all and spin to sell papers.

If the British Muslim population really wanted to rise up and establish a caliphate here on the British mainland, it would be in place by Monday.

But they don't because the majority are peace-loving people living their lives and getting on with their neighbours and ...

not creating news headlines!!!!

Yes the teacher has received death threats, which is utterly unacceptable - but football referees receive death threats every weekend from disgruntled fans, and they are keyboard numpties as well, but it's newsworthy, however unlikely it is ever to come to anything.

And that perception - which means that all football fans are murderous loonies - is incorrect, but it is newsworthy, if you whip it up with a nice dollop of established bigotry to back it up, and you have headlines, and chattering - result!

Yes there was a protest outside the school, but the papers did not trumpet the absence of arrests, either for unrest or Covid violations - no news there.

Extremes are news, normality is not, so by default, terrorism is news, peaceful existence is not, but we need to step back and get some perspective about what the minority headline situations are, and the rest of the majority none-headlines are, and act accordingly.

I am absolutely sick and tired of the same names coming on here and sighing and tutting and typing 'Good luck...' and 'Dream on ...' because their inbuilt biases simply excuse them from making any effort to stop living in bigot city and being realistic about what the majority of Muslims are actually like, as opposed to their tiny unhinged minority.

If your prejudice stops you from the tiresome task of actually thinking about what you type, and simply trotting out the same old cliches - 'They want us to respect them, they don't respect us ... the ROP at it again ...' and similarly lazy claptrap, the crack on.

But you encourage intolerance and bigotry with your pretence that because you don't understand it, it must be mad bad and violent, so I don't have to bother thinking about it, I can just shake my head and spout garbage to anyone who will listen.

Maybe it's not the Muslims living here who are the intolerant ones - now there's a thought ...

[Mamyalynne]

The first action should be to remove any cameras and crew from outside the school.

[andy-hughes]

Mamya - // The first action should be to remove any cameras and crew from outside the school. //

How on earth are you going to stoke up suspicion and antagonism if you don't show it to the people you want to antagonise, by piping it into their living rooms?

What you need is for the images to come in, so every Little Englander can spit and snarl about them 'lightening up' and 'integrating with us for a change' and similar cliched ill-informed bigoted dross that fuels the media, and the predjudice.

[naomi24]

AH, A caliphate by Monday? Confirmation - if any were needed - that you never had the plot to lose!

[Theland]

Andy, I'm sorry, but I strongly disagree with you.
Aren't Brits advised to learn about local sensibilities before traveling to some countries where behaviour we would deem normal could be problematic?
So is it not unreasonable to expect Muslims to respect our traditions of free expression?

[Old_Geezer]

One need not be a "Little Englander" in order to point out the obviously correct. It isn't the enlightened causing a furore about nothing.