Yorkshire School Protest

[mushroom25]

oh dear.....
https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/local-news/live-angry-parent-protest-batley-20250996

the teacher must have known the likely reaction, and that it was likely to be a career ending move. why on earth.......???

[Togo]

Common sense is not yet dead. It is under attack from all sides and within, but still has some resistance to offer.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14468189/ricky-gervais-mocks-mohammed-school-protest/?utm_medium=browser_notifications&utm_source=pushly

[fender62]

thye want there archaic values to be the norm in the 21 century, shall we for example omit all literature art writings that offend, this is a 21 century country, we have gone to the moon and back, mars is next, but wait! allah forbids such things, as the demons are out in space, or the heavens..err what, we dont use flint to start fires, and we have wheels to carry our burdens, the earth is not flat, and mountains are not held down by pegs less we float off, comets are not demons..such is islam.

[fender62]

reminds me of children, there's a monster under the bed... and these are adults..some educated who believe this nonsense, this goes for christians to, hell hath no fury..god will put asunder..lay low the whatever..he it is never going to happem, get out of that cave, the usn is blinding my eyes...wrath....aaahhhhhhh

[Togo]

Fender we are meant to despise and ridicule all past attitudes and behaviour. Any monuments, icons, or institutes that reflect the values of those ages and their mores are to be torn down and confined to the dustbins of history. All except one particular reflection of the dark ages that is.

[andy-hughes]

naomi - // AH, A caliphate by Monday? Confirmation - if any were needed - that you never had the plot to lose! //

It must be about time to remind everyone that you are the self-appointed Islam 'expert', so you know best.

But you know what suits you, like the rest of the head shakers and doom mongers.

[andy-hughes]

Theland - // Andy, I'm sorry, but I strongly disagree with you. //

No need to apologise to me, I have never, ever, and will never, ever, apologise to anyone anywhere for holding and expressing a viewpoint - apologising means I don't really think what I say has any merit - and I do. Always,

// Aren't Brits advised to learn about local sensibilities before traveling to some countries where behaviour we would deem normal could be problematic?
So is it not unreasonable to expect Muslims to respect our traditions of free expression? //

All Western visitors are advised of cultural differences, and accepting them is the courtesy we offer as visitors. There are of course plenty of exceptions who are tolerated by the Muslim population, their crass ignorance is usually ignored.

And here, if you think about it, the vast majority of Muslims integrate perfectly well into British culture, there are exceptions of course, but that is human nature.

The fact remains that if every Muslim expected their own way in this country, there would far far more unrest and trouble than there is, caused by the relatively small, but high profile, few who would not be satisfied with less than a Muslim planet.

But as I have advised, that vast majority xo-exist happily, and they do not make news - the few that do make a fuss, and here is a perfect example, are held up as though they represent the Muslim majority, which of course, they do not - any more than beer-swilling shorts-wearing British oafs in Muslim countries represent you or I.

[fender62]

andy, i have read the koran, infact two different versions, and my conclusions are they are, like christians deluded to the point of almost insanity, ie the fervent that is, for a modern society to bend or include such things in a curriculum as considered erm truth and to be revered is total nonsense, all the countries that adhere have one thing in common.. they will never advance, and that should not stop us, because they are offended, ill go as far as saying migrate to a country that follows your doctrine.

[Togo]

// I have never, ever, and will never, ever, apologise to anyone anywhere for holding and expressing a viewpoint - apologising means I don't really think what I say has any merit - and I do. Always,//

How very Islamic.

[tiggerblue10]

http://chng.it/BRJP5MPDSz

[burlyshirley]

The trouble with the vast majority of muslims is they have no sense of humour.

[burlyshirley]

Signed the petition.

[andy-hughes]

Togo - // // I have never, ever, and will never, ever, apologise to anyone anywhere for holding and expressing a viewpoint - apologising means I don't really think what I say has any merit - and I do. Always,//

How very Islamic. //

How very ridiculous!

[andy-hughes]

burlyshirley - // The trouble with the vast majority of muslims is they have no sense of humour. //

Not quite - it's the fervents in any religion that have no sense of humour - that applies to all faiths.

It certainly applies to the fervent Christianson here - check out R & S sometime - they couldn't crack a smile if their collective lives depended on it!

Sadly, the more fervent you are about your faith, the more self-righteous and obnoxiously opinionated you become, and that soon grows into an unavaoidable urge to share your bigoted twisted humourless opinions with the world at large via social media.

[andy-hughes]

fender - // ill go as far as saying migrate to a country that follows your doctrine. //

I prefer the new ship around the old bung thanks - I'll stay here until this country adopts my hope for the future - it's not a 'doctrine' by the way.

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“ The inference I take from your apparent approach - and do correct me if I am wrong - is that offence and distress are just a part of life, which is fair enough, and that causing them to cultures other than our own is OK, which is not fair enough.”

I think being offensive for the sake of being offensive is morally wrong... and likewise being offensive for trivial or nasty ends (e.g. for the sake of entertainment or for the purpose of demonising and stoking hatred and mistrust).. But I do think there are circumstances where being offensive is necessary in education.... can’t say if this actually was one because we haven’t seen enough information.

[Untitled]

And it seems now reading back that this thread has become a campaign to demonise all muslims... what a pity.

[andy-hughes]

Untitled - // But I do think there are circumstances where being offensive is necessary in education.... //

I think this may be an instance where the use of the word 'offensive' is possibly inaccurate.

I do agree that it is appropriate sometimes to confront difficult and challenging issues and concepts, I think that is what you are referring to here - but that is not actually the same as 'giving offence' per se, which is an emotive expression, and possibly sidetracks us from what may have been going on - as you say, we don't realy know yet.

[andy-hughes]

Untitled - // And it seems now reading back that this thread has become a campaign to demonise all muslims... what a pity. //

It's the default position on this site!!

Discuss Muslims and the Pavlovian bigotry will come huffing and puffing along as sure as night follows day.

[Bobbisox1]

AH, I don’t see many death threats on R&S, those who are making them need arrested and told there is no room for that kind of stuff in a Christian country !
Burley Shirley is right what she’s saying
Petition signed here as well

[tiggerblue10]

I have nothing against Islam, in fact I was kind of born into it but rejected it in my early teens as it wasn't for me, but why are they still protesting after the teacher has been sacked and apologies expressed by the Head? What are they hoping to achieve?