Labour Getting Hammered Up And Down The Country......

[ToraToraTora]

-60 council seats after only 16 results in out of 143 declared. Oh dear. Alison McGovern "we are on a journey" - yeah down the khazi love! PMSL. Time for Labour to split into their main factions?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/topics/c481drqqzv7t/england-local-elections-2021

[youngmafbog]

//Time for Labour to split into their main factions//

Isn't this Groundhog day?

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Very disappointing indeed... but not unexpected sadly.

[youngmafbog]

Not disappointing from where I am standing - and I hate Johnson!

[ToraToraTora]

I just think there are 2 Labour parties. The hard left anti British TROB, terrorist loving, woke thugs and the almost sensible half. Captain H should expel the former or form a new party with the latter.

[emmie]

Labour fielded the wrong man for the Hartlepool constituency, an arch remainer in a place that largely voted for Brexit.

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Good for you, youngmafbog.

[Apc2604]

As expected. Labour has nothing to offer any more. Only the diehards will vote for them. Basically, We have no opposition party. And Starmer is a complete disaster.

[emmie]

so it would seem Apc, David Miliband might have made a fist of it, but quite honestly Labour have totally lost the plot.

[youngmafbog]

Worse than that really TTT

Labour have the Hard left Unions, the Marxist Momentum mob, The woke North London centrics and the normal labour.

How on earth anyone can sort that out is beyond me. All will want the coveted labour banner, breaking away means a new party and that just doesnt seem to work in this country at the moment. Of course Bliar did have the excellent idea of New Labour. But that is now toxic too.

[ToraToraTora]

what about Phoenix Labour?

[youngmafbog]

Labours biggest problem is what to stand for.

They came to power to fight for the working man. Unfortunately for them they were very successful and todays 'working man' tends to be well off, own cars and often their own homes - and crucially dont like paying tax.

So I think their real problem is where do they pitch and I think this is why we are seeing multiple factions under the labour banner, each pitching their own agenda (non of which appeals to the 'working man'). They are no longer a team in any sense, they need to remember united we win divided we fall. They are of course the latter.

[youngmafbog]

Well that was New labour TTT.

I honestly dont know what they can do short term. But as I say above until they can agree a common goal and purpose, that aligns with a large voter base) they are in the wilderness. Not good for any of us.

[DTCwordfan]

they already are - should have heard Mandelson vs. Abbot's views on R4

[naomi24]

YMB is right when he says that Labour originally came to power to fight for the working man. Unfortunately for Labour - and fortunately for society - the working man is no longer the downtrodden grafter of the 1920s, 30s, and 40s. Labour doesn’t seem to have noticed that life has changed as have aspirations, ambitions, and expectations. I remember when Jeremy Corbyn first treated us to his pitch which was to ‘build factories’ to provide jobs without ever telling us what these factories would produce or how they were to compete in a world market whilst managing to pay the fantastic wages he promised. Labour needs to get its head around the fact that however much they yearn for the proven social disaster that is their brand of Socialism, they are not offering what the working man wants - and after yesterday’s performance they really shouldn’t find it too difficult … although they will. Labour is a dead duck.

I would love to know what Comrade Mikey would make of it all now.

[emmie]

yesterdays man and that god awful woman. what on earth have they to say on the matter.

[emmie]

Mikey would be horrified Naomi....

[dannyk13]

Naomi //I would love to know what Comrade Mikey would make of it all now.//
He would be devastated.

[naomi24]

But would he still support them? I think so. He really was the epitome of the dyed-in-the-wool Labour man. Dear old Mikey. He's missed.

[dannyk13]

Naomi//Dear old Mikey. He's missed//
Very much so.

[ToraToraTora]

Mikey was proper Labour, we usually disagreed but he at least was consistent in his views. He would be devastated at what has happened to his party.