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on anuvva fred didnt some bad tempered geriatric ( typical AB member then! ter daah ) comment if there were 98 dead policemen there would be none of this official shoulder shrugging and murmuring - you see it is very difficult ......
09:09 Thu 27th May 2021
//A driver could be charged with manslaughter and found not guilty but the jury could deliver a guilty verdict to the alternative charge of "wanton & furious driving" for example.//
Not unless the two charges had been charged as alternatives to be put before the jury for a decision or they were statutory alternatives (such as careless and dangerous driving).
The point I'm really trying to make is that it would be seen as an abuse of process if prosecutors now charged the three ex-officers with (say) misconduct in public office when they had been acquitted of PCoJ when the allegation is based on the same facts. That simply isn't on but I have an idea that the victims' families would be perfectly happy to see that. In fact it seems from some angles that they would be happy to see anything so long as it results in a conviction of somebody for something.
Not unless the two charges had been charged as alternatives to be put before the jury for a decision or they were statutory alternatives (such as careless and dangerous driving).
The point I'm really trying to make is that it would be seen as an abuse of process if prosecutors now charged the three ex-officers with (say) misconduct in public office when they had been acquitted of PCoJ when the allegation is based on the same facts. That simply isn't on but I have an idea that the victims' families would be perfectly happy to see that. In fact it seems from some angles that they would be happy to see anything so long as it results in a conviction of somebody for something.
// perhaps but at a toffs rugby game you would not have had thousands of ticketless drunken savages trying to force their way in.//
oh Gawd - so you dont police a meeting that DOES need policing because you say " oh, if they were old leddies sipping tea at the WI, they wouldnt behave like this (*) and so we'll do nothing and have tea ourselves!"
righto ! - normal day on AB then
(*) PP quips before anuvva: no they would be behaving much worse haw haw haw
oh Gawd - so you dont police a meeting that DOES need policing because you say " oh, if they were old leddies sipping tea at the WI, they wouldnt behave like this (*) and so we'll do nothing and have tea ourselves!"
righto ! - normal day on AB then
(*) PP quips before anuvva: no they would be behaving much worse haw haw haw
// altering the statements (which is what what the current case is all about). But that had no bearing on the cause of the actual events in 1989.//
yeah I was involved in a case where the prosecution/plaintiff didnt disclose documents ( 'this virtually exonerates Dr...)
and later on disclosure - the judge said exactly that - - - " I am so wise, that given the documents I would have determined ezactly the same!"
and how we clutched our bazoomz and cheered - o thank god for that - three cheers for the judges' wisdom and British Justice !
yeah I was involved in a case where the prosecution/plaintiff didnt disclose documents ( 'this virtually exonerates Dr...)
and later on disclosure - the judge said exactly that - - - " I am so wise, that given the documents I would have determined ezactly the same!"
and how we clutched our bazoomz and cheered - o thank god for that - three cheers for the judges' wisdom and British Justice !
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