Prince Andrew (Enough Said)

[Bobbisox1]

https://news.sky.com/story/prince-andrew-us-lawsuit-accuses-royal-of-sexually-abusing-virginia-giuffre-12377669

I’ve read the transcript but I’m not sure how anyone could be ‘forced’ to have sex at 17 yrs old unless they had a gun to her head, otherwise this would surely be rape wouldn’t it?
I’m no fan of PA, far from it but again just wondered how she was ‘forced’ to have sex with him and other prominent figures,and I’m not saying she’s to blame either but I would like to know

[Peter Pedant]

// Nobody wants their children to have a father who has a reputation of shagging sex-trafficked 17-year-olds,//

we are stuck with what we are - innit?
that is what is done is done and the Father ( Prince Randy or whomever) is now stuck with it

Judge Judy would have said - "ya shoulda kept your payants zipped"
or "your payants arn" - but it is all a bit late now !

sozza all - I must not c and p I must not c and P

[Ellipsis]

You're quoting what I gave as a reason for Fergie defending him ...

[Peter Pedant]

yeah sozza Ellipsi

odd day when I am told not to c/p - then not to go back on peoples latter posts ( and ridicule them)
and someone else came out and boxed my ears

because after months of not knowing WHAT I was on about, they suddently understood what ignoramus meant

[Peter Pedant]

sozza - dubbl sozza that was a joke from my father skooldays, 1920. The old ones are the best. O lardy dah, so much upset and so little said

time for bed said Zebedee

[andy-hughes]

I heard a legal expert on the radio today, advising that any civil suit has to follow on from the completion of the potentially criminal accusations and trial.

The epxert is convinced that Andrew's legal team will do what they have done so far, which is to prevaricate and obstruct for as long as they possibly can, in the hope that the whole thing may just run out of steam.

My view is that the issue for them is the vexed question of Andrew's potential interaction with the FBI.

The FBI have continually asked Andrew's legal team to make him available for them to interview.

The legal team have advised that Andrew is willing to co-operat with the FBI in their investigations.

The problem lies with the definitin of the term 'co-operation'.

For the FBI, this means Andrew coming to America and being inreviewed in person by the FBI.

For his legal team, it means Andrew answering any questions in writing - i.e. his legal team answering for him.

Naturally his legal team are utterly petrified at the thought of him sitting in a room answering questions on oath.

Given the catastrophic results from the friendly by clearly thought out eviceration he got from the peerless Ms Maitliss, the legal team can only dream of the sort of tangle the brainless buffoon would get himself into if left to answer for himself without being told what to say by them.

So the saga rumbles on.

This flurry of interest will die away, and Andrew must remain in fear of what Ms Maxwell may or may not say, when her future in jail, or not, depends on exactly how far she is prepared to drop him in it.

[naomi24]

Oooo...I think she'll drop him in it. I recall he said he doesn't sweat but I bet he's sweating now.

[sanmac]

Nothing to do with this particular situation; however, he had a bit of a mini-adventure at Lakefield College: https://www.macleans.ca/news/canada/how-a-royal-gift-exposed-sexual-abuse-at-an-elite-canadian-school/

[anneasquith]

Forget he belongs to the esteemed royal family. Think very carefully. Then make your decision( you can keep your decision private) we just know the abers will protect him to the death .

[dannyk13]

More woe for Handy Andy:-
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9882673/Prince-Andrew-face-SECOND-sex-abuse-lawsuit.html?ito=push-notification&ci=56uSlVFSYd&si=34683987&ai=9882673

[Bobbisox1]

Sadly Danny because of his uncooperative attitude in this, it leaves the door wide open for any woman he’s as much as spoken to over there, to jump on the bandwagon

[Peter Pedant]

// I heard a legal expert on the radio today, advising that any civil suit has to follow on from the potentially criminal accusations.// - the divine AH

I must not c/p I must not c/p - - - which channel was that Andie?
all I got from the beeb 0700 was the usual boolshat - and today I DID write a severe email to them telling them to damn well shape up

Fluffy beebsta swallowing whole 0700 BBCtv- the Prince must answer, we will make him, he must co operate, he must incriminate himself, he cannot take the 5th, we will extradite, our client is a innocent victim and the Prince an evil evil sex monsta who must pay now! countless thousand of dollars compensation(*)
wiv fluffy beebsta saying - yeah yeah too true - foo dat one

Long post for - yes andie I agree wiv your expert's view
which erm I gave on AB to great offence yesterday - ho hum that is life on AB

(*) note to Ab Editor - that sentence is NOT a statement of English Law, it is a disgusting pastiche of statements the Jiuffre team have been allowed to give without challenge on the Beeb

[Peter Pedant]

// advising that any civil suit has to follow on from the completion of the potentially criminal//

yeah but no but

It hasnt been made clear whether the criminal suit is Jiuffre alleging the Prince is a criminal sex monsta ( complete non starter)
OR
Ghislaine alleging Jiuffre is perjuring herself - very very early for perjury allegations to get up and run in English Law

Criminal allegations first is why we are getting the London Bridge inquests and Streatham High St inquests YEARS after the events

[davebro]

//His dog arrived at Balmoral in a separate car an hour earlier, suggesting the prince could be planning a lengthy stay//

Even his dog doesn't want to be seen with him!

[poorclare]

If you love the Queen so much, why do you bash her Son so
much ? yes Prince Andrew is the third child (and second son)
of the Queen and who ?
Strange how history repeats itself, Prince Harry comes to mind.
I know everything can be denied but but but
I wish HRH Prince Andrew and Prince Harry good luck.

[Mozz71]

Poorclare, being the Queen's son doesn't excuse Andrew from criticism if he's found doing such things as he's been accused of.

Do you consider his position should make him immune from prosecution and free to do what he wishes? That's more harmful to the royal family than the current situation.

[dannyk13]

I agree with Mozz.

[maggiebee]

Teflon Andy. //I recall he said he doesn't sweat// Well known fact that pigs don't sweat. Feel sorry for his mother.

[Peter Pedant]

mornin' mozza
// being the Queen's son doesn't excuse Andrew from criticism if he's found doing such things as he's been accused of.//

I am sure you dont mind being copied and pasted - your wise wise words that is!

Emperor Franz Fern-non II was accused of rape by a nineteen yr old (d of a ) courtier - ( father of the completely mad and crezzy Crown prince Rudolph of Mayerling fame) - and the rest of the Imperial Court of Vienna felt that she shouldnt er complain but wear it as a badge of pride. Emperor was way over 60 at that time

just saying for chrissakes

1870 or thereabouts - gives 100 ABers a chance to holler: hoo he den? Wife was the Empress Elizabeth who was another loony - Mimi or Sisi or Loolie much like Princess Di. Also said no to sex after Rudolph

[Peter Pedant]

Good Times article today
I will copy a bit out if my otherwise busy schedule allows

[Peter Pedant]

damn Franz Joseph II
I bet the whole of AB is whooping with glee at my ignorance

Franz Fernon was bamma lamma damma in 1914 Sarajevo

PP retreats into corner blushing wiv T towel over head.