More Victims Of The Conspiracy Loonies........

[ToraToraTora]

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-unvaccinated-mother-brother-and-father-die-with-coronavirus-after-being-misled-by-online-posts-12378475
...very sad case, these people bought onto the swathes of media and online BS and paid with their lives. What can be done?

[ichkeria]

It’s that sort of idea which just encourages the loonies :-)

Common sense is our friend here

[Bobbisox1]

Tora they can advise people to have it but continually coming out with these stories is a scaremongering tactic IMO, whether it works or not, I don’t know

[anneasquith]

Ttt. My philosophy now is . I am double vaccinated and I will inform anyone who wishes to know I am ., for their protection if we require to have any interaction. Similarly I require others to inform me if they have been vaccinated for my safety .

[ToraToraTora]

bobbie: It's not scaremongering though, they are reporting real cases. Scaremongering is what the anti vaxx morons do.

[ToraToraTora]

bang on anne, on that we can agree.

[Bobbisox1]

Tora as I said that’s only my opinion and I respect yours

[anneasquith]

Bobbie, I pleased you respect ttt”s opinion. So you will respect mine also ? Thanks

[Ken4155]

What can be done? Not much more than is already being done, i'm afraid, TTT. If they haven't got the message by now, perhaps they never will.

[anneasquith]

Ken, I think you may be right. I believe in the near future some places of work, entertainment venues etc. MAY introduce a covid passport system.

[Peter Pedant]

// If people want it they’ll ask to have it ...// anon
I must not c/p I must not c/p - - ( gets the quote right see?)

erm I know it is me: this is not a sly dig: they didnt want it - simples
that was the Big Drawback - when they got it that is!

Have the vacca: it is Very Good for YOU Indeed!
It may sound like a public pronouncement - but like many things on AB already that DOESN'T mean it is automatic crap

[Peter Pedant]

damn - ambiguous

they didnt want it -the vacca- and so when they got it covid, there was a problem ( er they died just to remind those who Forget Easily)

Like in the Tchaikovsky film 1967, he drinks Venice water ( ugh) and get cholera....- eek might be Death in Venice

[ichkeria]

“ It's not scaremongering though, they are reporting real cases”

Precisely. I’d compare it to “I didn’t wear a seatbelt and now I haven’t a face”
It’s “scary” but it’s a simple message about what CAN happen

[anneasquith]

Ich Great analogy. Seat belts were used universally when it became law to wear one . Will that be the case with vaccinations ? Eventually .

[chelle7272]

You think it will become law to be vaccinated? Seriously?

[teacake44]

Some times you win sometimes you lose, some change their opinion over night to go along with the present mood, or stop on the right side of the fence. Not to mention global warming, some seem to think, or prefer to think, that is scaremongering.

[youngmafbog]

Personally I agree it is Project fear going over the top that feeds the conspirator theories. Also the Government has manipulated figures and used out of date ones together with only broadcasting worse case scenarios that never come to pass. This is crying wolf, people switch off and dont listen. Its a pity SAGE and the Government have not been Open, honest and transparent that is the only way to beat the odd theories. Of course its not just the UK, the likes of Macron et al with incorrect info about AZ has really not helped.

//these people bought onto the swathes of media and online BS and paid with their lives.//

Not necessarily, you dont know their circumstances and vaccines have killed some albeit a minority. They may well have weighed up what info they could get and make a call. The wrong call but that is what a free State is all about.

[pixie374]

I think Ken and ymb are right. You can inform and educate to a point, before it becomes more like "pushing" and makes suspicious people more suspicious.
I find it irrational slightly, when people compare the vaccine to covid- as if they are the only two options. And you will get one or the other. They aren't. Both have independent and separate risks, and need to be considered separately as well. The vaccine is obviously far safer than the virus. Except for where it isn't.
People need to make their own choices, and not be treated differently. You can only protect yourself here, it's not like MMR, which helps everyone.

[roadman]

pixie what about the unvaccinated mutating the disease into something stronger where as those who are vaccinated are less likely to help the disease develop and they are less likely to carry it at all

[ToraToraTora]

good analogy ich, BA. I would not make it compulsory to have a vaccine but I would take measures to stop them mixing with the rest of us.

[ToraToraTora]

YMB: "Not necessarily, you dont know their circumstances" - well we do in this case, the article says:
//He said: "They were afraid. They had a lot of information passed through the internet, you can call it misinformation, disinformation is probably more appropriate - misleading people to the point of propaganda.//