Climate Change Still Not Our Fault Then

[Stickybottle]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-58494641
Cue the usual deniers who are no different to anti vaxers with their views
Is it all still caused by volcanoes then ?

[sevenOP]

jno "But the answer is still China
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-57018837 "

That article starts "China emits more greenhouse gas than the entire developed world combined, a new report has claimed."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Developed_country#/media/File:Imf-advanced-un-least-developed-2008.svg

it is replete with 'data' from a New York advisory group/think tank( Rhodium Group) and a European think tank (Global Carbon Project 2020)

but the BBC article does mention:

"The Asian giant has the world's largest population, so its per person emissions are still far behind the US, but the research said those emissions have increased too, tripling over the course of two decades." ..... just to keep it all balanced, right ?

[davebro]

It all comes back to the same thing - too many people!

Until the world is prepared to accept meaningful population reduction not much progress will be made.

[Stickybottle]

Sad to think that those who say they are not bothered really do not care what sort of a world their grandchildren will inherit when they could take action now
I despair for the human race

[jno]

sevenOP, my point was more that the west has spent decades demanding that China power up, and when it does so, demanding that it stop at once. As far as I'm concerned, people use China as a scapegoat and an excuse for not doing anything themselves, because someone else is always to blame.

[douglas9401]

Coital warming then?

[ToraToraTora]

jno, we cannot make any difference no matter what we do, China can, end of.

[sevenOP]

jno, understood;I have seen your views on this subject, I was giving a wider view on a BBC hit piece.
Sadly New Judge was half right ,"This is virtue signalling to a world that has no virtue of its own ".
The Public has no power in this matter, but the charade of the 26th Conference of the Parties warrants deep scrutiny.

[sevenOP]

"jno, we cannot make any difference no matter what we do, China can, end of."

'Cut-me-own-throat Xi' - as likely as balanced comment onthe subject from TTT.

[davebro]

//I despair for the human race//

That's a pretty fair stance to take.

[webbo3]

https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/800796377478103626/

[davebro]

Maybe that's why Aborigines are so dark skinned?

[youngmafbog]

//These answers all make me almost despair.//

Why, AH has written what is the fact. It may not suit your agenda but fact it still is.

[youngmafbog]

//Cue the usual deniers who are no different to anti vaxers with their views//

Well right there you trashed any argument you may have had. Starting off by insulting people is not the way to go about things.

[jourdain2]

Well said youngmafbog.

[sevenOP]

andy-hughes "That is yet to be proven beyond the proverbial 'reasonable doubt...
Because something is perceived wisdom does not automatically mean that it must be the only correct view...
My contgention is that such a conclusion is not proveable, certainly not to the level where anyone is actually going to think about changing their lives to facilitate it. "

Does that same logic apply to the asymptomatic COVID-19 spreader, Andy ?

https://www.hartgroup.org/asymptomatic-spread/

[andy-hughes]

Sevenoaks, that's comparing apples with oranges.

If you want a parallel scenario to argue with, try looking in the same galaxy as the original.

[sevenOP]

Thanks for the succinct answer Andy.
Of course covid-19 and climate change are both affecting planet Earth.

[andy-hughes]

As is the threat to bees and the fact that the earth is slowly orbiting closer to the sun, and the fact that there are probably aliens watching us.

But they are not relevant either.

[dave50]

The BBC is now back to showing pictures of extreme weather around the world trying to scare people half to death over climate change. This is after 18 months of roaming hospital wards filming people dying of covid in hospital beds and lingering footage of nurses in tears. Don't they just love all this scare mongering so as to try to keep people in check and do what they're told.

[beso]

The UK is one of the largest historical emitters on the planet. Some of the wealth generated by those emissions should be put back into fixing the problem.

The argument over whether the climate change is being caused by human emissions is utter nonsense. There is no question. The rate of change far exceeds anything in the past and it not consistent with any "natural cycle".

On average, volcanoes emit about one percent of the carbon emitted by human activities.

The notion that changing the way we generate energy would destroy our economy is ridiculous. It is changing and having a positive effect. The idea that enough energy could not be produced by renewables is completely false.