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You evil witch
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Suddenly want to help the uk fight terrorism
Even after what she said about the Manchester bombing
Leave her where she is
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Suddenly want to help the uk fight terrorism
Even after what she said about the Manchester bombing
Leave her where she is
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“ however I think an extended period demonstrating her rehabilitation, helping to prevent it happening with others is called for.”
Not a bad idea: however what we seem to have is … nothing. Not just her but the others still out there in camps.
Hard to justify on moral, legal or indeed security grounds.
Not a bad idea: however what we seem to have is … nothing. Not just her but the others still out there in camps.
Hard to justify on moral, legal or indeed security grounds.
I don’t think she was groomed by IS - but recruited by them. Her father, who is, as I understand it, currently in Pakistan, was photographed at extremist rallies in this country, so I believe her ideology is a product of her upbringing. I don’t find her exclusion hard to justify. I know whose side I’m on - and it’s not hers.
We've had an interesting thread on this, when I confessed to changing my mind, which still stands, - let her come back:
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I've long thought she should be bought back to the UK and thrown into jail. I'm sure there are numerous things she could be prosecuted with. I still believe that she is the UK's responsibilty. Stripping her of citizenship and leaving her for others to deal with is not how it should work. If another country did that to us, we'd, quite rightly, be up in arms about it.
from the other thread I posted:
Lawyer, Clive Stafford Smith has actually visited these camps & the conditions are appaling I had no idea how many women & children are being held.
" Al Hol camp alone has held more than 100 times as many as Guantanamo [it's called 'Guantanamo on the Euphrates'] and an overwhelming majority are small children who would under the dictates of civilization benefit from an irrefutable presumption of innocence."
If you can watch the film, I should do
In another camp :ROJ, a young Kurdish woman tried to lighten the mood by playing music but then the doctrinaire wife of a senior Egyptian Isis leader arrived and declared it 'haram' she and a small cadre of enforcers created a new extremism , should someone like Shamima be tempted to criticize Isis in an interview, "such traitors had their tents set alight, as evidenced by the shocking film I was sent which showed the charred remains of a young boy".
Later.
" The truth about 'Guantanamo on the Euphrates' is only beginning to leak out, but facts have a habit of emerging in the end.
'The Return' should be required watching for anyone who thinks that stripping a teenager of her passport & condemning her & scores of children to live & perhaps die in Camp Roj makes Britain safer . It achieves precisely the opposite."
Lawyer, Clive Stafford Smith has actually visited these camps & the conditions are appaling I had no idea how many women & children are being held.
" Al Hol camp alone has held more than 100 times as many as Guantanamo [it's called 'Guantanamo on the Euphrates'] and an overwhelming majority are small children who would under the dictates of civilization benefit from an irrefutable presumption of innocence."
If you can watch the film, I should do
In another camp :ROJ, a young Kurdish woman tried to lighten the mood by playing music but then the doctrinaire wife of a senior Egyptian Isis leader arrived and declared it 'haram' she and a small cadre of enforcers created a new extremism , should someone like Shamima be tempted to criticize Isis in an interview, "such traitors had their tents set alight, as evidenced by the shocking film I was sent which showed the charred remains of a young boy".
Later.
" The truth about 'Guantanamo on the Euphrates' is only beginning to leak out, but facts have a habit of emerging in the end.
'The Return' should be required watching for anyone who thinks that stripping a teenager of her passport & condemning her & scores of children to live & perhaps die in Camp Roj makes Britain safer . It achieves precisely the opposite."
Khandro, as I said on the other thread, she has no children. You could make a case for camps of all sorts but it doesn't follow that it's sensible to welcome our enemies to live among us. I asked you on the other thread how you would feel if, as a result of her return to the UK, people died. You didn't answer me.
Funny isn’t it: I disagree with Khandro on most things but IMO he’s spot on here.
I think I’d there was some idea that the govt was not simply ignoring this issue then I’d be happier.
I fully understand the strength of feeling esp in the light of her comments about Manchester. But strength of feeling isn’t enough, hence my first post.
I think I’d there was some idea that the govt was not simply ignoring this issue then I’d be happier.
I fully understand the strength of feeling esp in the light of her comments about Manchester. But strength of feeling isn’t enough, hence my first post.
// Nah,Ichy,once a terrorist always a terrorist.//
no actually that is NOT born out by the facts
It is more accurate to say they have a life cycle
wild dargs in their twenties
by their forties they are wondering why they are doing it
later on ( before 60s) they are looking at the 'gentlemen' ( gerry adams Martin McG) who lead charmed lives and the players ( them ) who are still getting butchered by the Brits
and thereafter, the incessant questions of whether it was all worfit. Since basically they are still in Northern Ireland, still in tenements and still unemployed .....
Joan McConville's killers arent going around saying - oh yeah yeah I would do it all again but enjoy it this time!
no actually that is NOT born out by the facts
It is more accurate to say they have a life cycle
wild dargs in their twenties
by their forties they are wondering why they are doing it
later on ( before 60s) they are looking at the 'gentlemen' ( gerry adams Martin McG) who lead charmed lives and the players ( them ) who are still getting butchered by the Brits
and thereafter, the incessant questions of whether it was all worfit. Since basically they are still in Northern Ireland, still in tenements and still unemployed .....
Joan McConville's killers arent going around saying - oh yeah yeah I would do it all again but enjoy it this time!
10:54, I don't give a stuff that she was 'stripped of her British citizenship' ! Sometimes this is necessary and in this case, doubly so !
I, for one, wouldn't be up in arms if another country did this to 'us', particularly if the 'us' was as evil and callous as she is ! More serious things to worry about these days than the likes of her .....
I, for one, wouldn't be up in arms if another country did this to 'us', particularly if the 'us' was as evil and callous as she is ! More serious things to worry about these days than the likes of her .....
Quoting myself again:
"To add fuel to the flames of AB; Donald Trump was right (as he often was) when he called on countries to take their nationals back, & empty these disgraceful camps teeming with children without a future.
"The Europeans (led by the British) have steadfastly refused, & ramped up the populist vilification, as if the walls of Whitehall would crumble if one young teenage girl should be allowed to return home."
"To add fuel to the flames of AB; Donald Trump was right (as he often was) when he called on countries to take their nationals back, & empty these disgraceful camps teeming with children without a future.
"The Europeans (led by the British) have steadfastly refused, & ramped up the populist vilification, as if the walls of Whitehall would crumble if one young teenage girl should be allowed to return home."
The problem is that there is evidence which is persuasive but not admissible - here the abiding rumour she sewed men into suicide vests.
Obama was gonna empty Guantanamo within weeks, but was shown video against it - - specifically training videos from 'innocent detainees' saying to a group - "I was a bomb maker but secreted it from the Americans for five years, and this is how you do it" .....They stayed locked up
[Guantanamo was a pile of poo - none of the interrogators spoke Dari or Pushtu....chrissakes it is 20y there must be someone who bovvered]
Obama was gonna empty Guantanamo within weeks, but was shown video against it - - specifically training videos from 'innocent detainees' saying to a group - "I was a bomb maker but secreted it from the Americans for five years, and this is how you do it" .....They stayed locked up
[Guantanamo was a pile of poo - none of the interrogators spoke Dari or Pushtu....chrissakes it is 20y there must be someone who bovvered]
// Donald Trump was right (as he often was) empty these disgraceful camps teeming with children //
jesus if you say it on AB - then it must be true
D trump locked up hispanic children in Texas and ( some ) they died. His heart never bled in the way portrayed - - end of
St Donald..... I really dont think so
jesus if you say it on AB - then it must be true
D trump locked up hispanic children in Texas and ( some ) they died. His heart never bled in the way portrayed - - end of
St Donald..... I really dont think so
//I, for one, wouldn't be up in arms if another country did this to 'us', particularly if the 'us' was as evil and callous as she is//
Shirley, the "us" in my comment meant the UK, not us individually. If the UK were left to deal with a potentially dangerous foreign criminal because their country of origin had washed their hands of them, we would be justifiably upset and angry about it.
Shirley, the "us" in my comment meant the UK, not us individually. If the UK were left to deal with a potentially dangerous foreign criminal because their country of origin had washed their hands of them, we would be justifiably upset and angry about it.
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