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The Sunny Uplands Of Brexit Continue
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They'll get over it. Meanwhile the UK can begin to realign its economy away from reliance on cheap imported labour (seems to be starting to work in the haulage industry) and away from dependence for trade on the protection racket that is the EU. And it will take time. You can't undo forty years of bad habits in nine months so it's silly to make a song and dance every time the "Sunny Uplands of Brexit" have not yet manifested themselves.
Now the argument for leave appears to be to stop moaning at all the problems created by Brexit and wait for some unspecified time in the future, when they believe things will improve.
If this had been the Brexiteers slogan as the reason to vote leave, rather than the number on the side of a red bus and blue passports – I doubt if anyone would have voted for it.
If this had been the Brexiteers slogan as the reason to vote leave, rather than the number on the side of a red bus and blue passports – I doubt if anyone would have voted for it.
//Now the argument for leave appears to be to stop moaning at all the problems created by Brexit...//
It was inevitable that there would be problems following Brexit. Anybody believing otherwise is an idiot. Things will settle down. M&S will use the money they save running their shops there elsewhere. The Parisians will no longer have an M&S to shop from. A few French people will lose their jobs. None of it, absolutely none of it, is any justification for the UK to remain in an increasingly ridiculous bloc which will slowly but surely diminish in importance.
It was inevitable that there would be problems following Brexit. Anybody believing otherwise is an idiot. Things will settle down. M&S will use the money they save running their shops there elsewhere. The Parisians will no longer have an M&S to shop from. A few French people will lose their jobs. None of it, absolutely none of it, is any justification for the UK to remain in an increasingly ridiculous bloc which will slowly but surely diminish in importance.
"cheery picking" , good idea, but seems beyond Brexit and Remainers unfortunately.
It will take time for all the advantages and disadvantages of the UK leaving the EU to manifest, and CoVID-19 and other 'externalities' / confounding variables, will make assessing developments suitably obscured.
I see no point in being negative, we must make the best of it.
It will take time for all the advantages and disadvantages of the UK leaving the EU to manifest, and CoVID-19 and other 'externalities' / confounding variables, will make assessing developments suitably obscured.
I see no point in being negative, we must make the best of it.
No point at all in being negative I suppose, Seven, but when you see what you feared would happen happening you despair.
Folk who've built up a successful businesses employing many are now struggling even though they are not making the headlines for all to read.
That's sad, unfair and bloody difficult for those involved to make the most of.
Folk who've built up a successful businesses employing many are now struggling even though they are not making the headlines for all to read.
That's sad, unfair and bloody difficult for those involved to make the most of.
//At some point in time, even the most die-hard Brexiteers will come to realise what an unmitigated disaster Brexit is//
Personally I see no evidence that it is an "unmitigated disaster." It is an opportunity to reset the country's economy on to a more realistic footing that will be more viable in the long term. That said, even if it was I would not regret my decision to vote to leave. You do not strive to keep the peace at any cost and our membership was at too great a cost.
The only misgivings I have is with the Northern Ireland protocol. It would work if the EU was pragmatic in its application but those who agreed to it should have realised that was never going to happen. A different solution must and will be found.
Personally I see no evidence that it is an "unmitigated disaster." It is an opportunity to reset the country's economy on to a more realistic footing that will be more viable in the long term. That said, even if it was I would not regret my decision to vote to leave. You do not strive to keep the peace at any cost and our membership was at too great a cost.
The only misgivings I have is with the Northern Ireland protocol. It would work if the EU was pragmatic in its application but those who agreed to it should have realised that was never going to happen. A different solution must and will be found.
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