E-Scooter Fatality.

[davebro]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-58708800

Am I missing something here? The boy was riding a private (ebay purchase) e-scooter illegally on the road. Would he not have similarly ignored any legislation that required him to wear a helmet?

[bednobs]

i sort of thought the same. Yesterday the girlfriend was on the news talking about how his sacrifice could save other people and i thought what a strange way to put it - he didnt make any sacrifices (unless they are talking of his death, in which case sacrifice is a very strange way of terming it).
It's very sad of course, and awful for both his family and the person they were in a crash with

[barry1010]

Can't see the logic of this sentence in the report:
""He'd been in an accident before in Jamaica," Bryana said, "So I thought it was going to be OK.""

Very sad waste of a life, dreadful for his loved ones

[Ken4155]

Sacrifice? More a tragic waste of a young life.

[Ellipsis]

The bereaved family is trying to get something positive from his death by spreading the message to wear a helmet. Have a heart ...

[Ken4155]

I suppose that were helmets mandatory on e-scooters, anyone not wearing one could be pulled over immediately and then checked to see if they hold the necessary category Q entitlement on their licence. As it stands at the moment, how are the police to know which e-scooter riders are taking part in the government backed trial?

[davebro]

//As it stands at the moment, how are the police to know which e-scooter riders are taking part in the government backed trial?//

Similarly if all scooter riders wore helmets they still wouldn't know legals from illegals. Needs some sort of registration plate?

[barry1010]

Ken, the e-scooters that can be legally ridden are very distinctive - they are rented and easily recognised by the authorities

[Dagman]

Ban them altogether, unstable deathtraps, should be instant seize and destroy none of this hire carry on. We saw a girl hit by one of these on the pavement, her mother went ballistic attacking the rider, good on her.

[Ken4155]

Right, Barry, i didn't know. Ta for that.

[Ellipsis]

Yep, only rented e-scooters are legal in public. Bought ones are only for use on private land (at present).

[William51]

It is a sad case which we will see more of if they become more popular.

[Ken4155]

Now i know what they look like

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=what+does+a+rented+e-scooter+look+like&docid=607986220439729005&mid=2C738B745241691118272C738B74524169111827&view=detail&FORM=VIRE

[bednobs]

"The bereaved family is trying to get something positive from his death by spreading the message to wear a helmet. Have a heart ..."
but the message is ridiculous - when doing something illegal, make sure you do it safely

[calmck]

While I feel sorry for the family there have been many reports of riders of non rented scooters being killed or injured by younger riders as well. Maybe all non compliant e scooters on public roads should be taken by the police

[Ellipsis]

> when doing something illegal, make sure you do it safely

You could choose to interpret it that way, but even then it's not ridiculous: it's like wearing a seatbelt while speeding, or wearing a cycle helmet while riding on the pavement.

But their message is to wear a helmet while on an e-scooter. And I have never seen anybody doing that on a legally rented one.

[ToraToraTora]

I think helmet please etc are pointless if one is prepared to ride these things on the pavement why would they wear a lid?

[ToraToraTora]

what I don;t get though is that we are always being told that the saucepans are all getting fatter so the last thing they should be using is a lecky powered scooter!

[ToraToraTora]

10:02: Helmet Pleas

[Gromit]

Failure of Government.
They make e-scooters illegal to use on public roads, but do not enforce it. So lots of people do it. It is illegal to sell a car in a dangerous condition, but our favourite tech tax dodger is awash with them for sale.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/s?k=E-scooter&;ref=nb_sb_noss_2

[THECORBYLOON]

"It is illegal to sell a car in a dangerous condition, but our favourite tech tax dodger is awash with them for sale."

I don't think that is what you mean...