More "Sunlit Uplands"

[Canary42]

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/grown-men-tears-hundreds-pigs-163700057.html

[Ellipsis]

> I can't see hpw they can possibly get upset about animals they were raising to get slaughtered, getting slaughtered.

Do you not remember the foot and mouth outbreak? Even meateaters such as myself get upset at the sight of animals slaughtered in the fields and thrown away, rather than finding their way to the plate. It's about purpose ...

[Mozz71]

Oh, so they don't mind the animals getting slaughtered, as long as they don't have to see it. Righto.

(Incidentally, the foot and mouth outbreak, like mad cow.disease.afterwards, effected all livestock, not just the ones destined for the abattoir - milking cows, wool sheep etc)

[tamborine]

BS! Every farmer knows how to pearce a jugular & gut an animal. Meat kept in freezers till sold will cut their losses. Pointless culling healthy animals for burial!

[douglas9401]

I'm sure a compensation package is being thrashed out as we type, Tamborine.

[Ellipsis]

> Oh, so they don't mind the animals getting slaughtered, as long as they don't have to see it

Did I say or imply that? No.

More like, they don't mind the animals getting slaughtered, as long as they get to eat them.

[Mozz71]

Sorry Ellipsis, but I really think "They don't mind their animals being slaughtered as long as they're paid for them" is far more likely. As Tambo said, not a single animal need be wasted. Open a farm shop. Sell their own produce. It's really not that hard.

[Mamyalynne]

What are the rules and regs regarding killing the animal in the farmyard and butchering it on the premises?

Would they need licences?

I don't know the answers but all that takes time to put in place.

The sadness I mentioned was as much the potential waste of food in addition of course to loss of revenue.

[pastafreak]

I'd imagine that in order yo be fit for human consumption they need to be slaughtered in an abattoir only...not in the fields with a bullet in their heads...and that will be just one of umpteen regulations they need to conform to. Someone told me that cattle can't go to slaughter for human food after the age of 22 months...this came about after bse. Quite possibly there is an age limit of pigs also.

[pastafreak]

According to Compassion in World Farming...
pigs are slaughtered //when the pigs are 20 to 24 weeks of age. In the UK and Ireland, pigs are not castrated so they tend to be slaughtered at a lower weight to reduce the risk of boar taint flavour in the meat of adult boars. Pigs sold for pork are slaughtered at a live-weight of 55-60 kg. //...so bigger is not better or optimal. As one lot is slaughtered they make room for the next generation of piglets.

[youngmafbog]

Something not quite right with this one.

I am pretty sure and its quite difficult to see where the real problem is. They appear to be blaming it on lack of butchers rather than the killing that must be done on site for saftey reasons, so why cant they just sell the carcases off there must be plenty of people who could butcher a carcass up if it came at the right price.

Smacks to me of someone trying to make a point because they are going to have to pay proper wages not 'slave' wages of migrants.

[ToraToraTora]

Believe me not single pork chop will be wasted, these are farmers they'll butcher it themselves and knock it out to who ever.

[ToraToraTora]

YMB: "smacks to me of someone trying to make a point because they are going to have to pay proper wages not 'slave' wages of migrants." - yep I sense a remoaner/lefty hissy fit.

[pastafreak]

Actually, it's all part of the worldwide plot to make us all switch to plant based eating. ;)

[gulliver1]

Could this problem have been caused because of Brexit
.....Maybe....

[New Judge]

//Actually, it's all part of the worldwide plot to make us all switch to plant based eating. ;)//

Then there will be nobody to pick the cabbages!

If this (and other problems recently evident) is a result of Brexit, why has it only just occurred? Have hundreds of thousands of EU workers upped sticks and left in the past fortnight?

[Redhelen72]

Its not a remainer rumour the PM was talking about it in an interview

[naomi24]

//Have hundreds of thousands of EU workers upped sticks and left in the past fortnight? //

That's exactly the question I keep asking.

[tamborine]

OH hired 4 prisoners to catch, cull & gut 400 geese. They lived in caravans & worked in barn for 3weeks. Wages paid into PO accounts for them. 2 now have own poultry farms in Aussie & 2 in Spain. All wed with families. There is a huge labour force in prisons crying out for chance of a trade.

[AuntPG]

There are no rules regarding the slaughter of any animal for your own consumption. So a pig farmer might save one or two animals from culling, if he wanted to, to give it to family and friends. He could not open a farm shop and sell his pork killed without licence. 'Just open a farm shop' shows little knowledge of planning laws lol!

[youngmafbog]

APG.

The problem is, as I stated above, it seems confusing as to where the problem lies. It appears to be 'no butchers not 'no slaughterers' so take animal to knackers yard then get teh carcass back and butcher it. I knew a bloke that had a small holding (on the side) that used to do this with his sheep.

He actually held the best excuse for being late for a meeting at work. "Sorry there was a holdup at the abattoir".