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ToraToraTora | 08:26 Mon 11th Oct 2021 | News
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-58863680
"On Thursday Poland's top court ruled that key articles of EU law were "incompatible" with the constitution." - looks like Poland also have their share of remoaners.
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Spending an extra £350m per week on the NHS would be a waste - probably go in inflated admin salaries.
18:37 Mon 11th Oct 2021
The "350M..." message was carefully selected and worded that way to entice people "that should get their noggin felt" to vote leave, otherwise it wouldn't have been printed on the side of the Brexit bus.
Well the Beeb are running it - as a constitutional crisis

Poland has apparently been doing a Trump with the senior judges,- Leyen (above) has the standard EU rule - when you go in you agree that the European court's judgments are supreme
//when you go in you agree that the European court's judgments are supreme//

....and when you come out (today is after all coming out day, so I am told) then your own judgements prevail. Pass it on.
//If they live in the UK, I would think it fair that the benefits we are all entitled to and take for granted should be theirs equally.//

Depends really. Do you think it is fair, for example, that those who have been arriving in their hundreds – in fact thousands – in rubber boats over the past few months, should share equally in “the benefits we are all entitled to and take for granted”? My view is that no, they don’t.

This, of course, may simply be me demonstrating the “cultural inculcation” (thanks for explaining it to us – I’m sure none of us knew what it was) which you believe is excessive on this site. It could equally be a very valid question about your belief that anybody who lives here is entitled to share in the country’s ample benefits. Now I’m not saying the Poles, who arrived here in good faith by legitimate channels are not entitled to share in the country’s undoubted advantages. But it is surely too simplistic to automatically bestow those benefits which others have paid for on those who simply pitch up on these shores in a dinghy just because “they live here.”

I’d be interested in your views on this point but if you feel your skills and abilities would be wasted on such a topic, I’ll quite understand. It’s a shame that AB will have to do without your two and a bit contributions each week, especially in view of the skills and abilities you bring to us all. Still, I’m sure you’ll provide us with details of where we can find your podcast before you go. You can then speak whilst we all listen intently. Far more satisfying than the tiresome business of engaging with people who might perhaps not agree with you.
Douglas, //one can picture …//

Only if one takes leave of one’s senses. I always thought your jokes funny … but there’s funny … and funny. I fear now they fall into the latter category.
Roobaba: //do you know any [Polish people] Khandro?//

Yes and one, a Polish, Jewish woman who luckily escaped from the Warsaw ghetto to London WWII changed the course of my early professional life. I have exhibited in Warsaw prior to the collapse of the communist regime and I also visited Gdansk just prior to the covid outbreak a couple of years ago & loved it & everyone I met there - I have an abiding memory of a teenage couple entering church hand in hand & then kneeling to pray together.

My dad, - R.A.F. in WWII - said the Polish pilots were the bravest men among the brave.
We send the EU £350m a week
Let’s fund the NHS instead

> err no it's the suggestion, "lets fund" - what comes after that is just ideas about what to fund "instead".

Oh really? Is that how you see it? Ideas, plural? I don't recall a big list of ideas, a fleet of buses with a different idea on each one. Just that one bus, with that one statement: "Let's fund the NHS instead"
Ellipsis, who among the people who championed Brexit and came up with that suggestion was in a position to make any promises at all? This whole argument is ludicrous.
> Ellipsis, who among the people who championed Brexit and came up with that suggestion was in a position to make any promises at all?

The people who commissioned it to be painted on the side of their battle bus. Otherwise, why did they commission it to be painted on the side of their battle bus?
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elipsis: "We send the EU £350m a week
Let’s fund the NHS instead

> err no it's the suggestion, "lets fund" - what comes after that is just ideas about what to fund "instead".

Oh really? Is that how you see it? Ideas, plural? " -

indeed it could be a list, eg:
We send the EU £350m a week
Let’s fund, literacy classes for remoaners or the NHS instead.
geddit?
Ellipsis, //The people who commissioned it to be painted on the side of their battle bus. //

Were any of them in a position to make and fulfil such a 'promise'?
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'This vehicle is reversing'
Good! It's about time you saw sense, douglas.
Or, let's fund psychiatrists to treat AB remoaners
> Let’s fund, literacy classes for remoaners or the NHS instead.
geddit?

Yep, I geddit. You are suggesting that I need literacy classes. Thanks for the suggestion. I'll chew it over.

In the meantime, let's try repeating TCL's unanswered question: Were there any posters or adverts suggesting the £350 million each week be spent other than on the NHS?
Ellipsuis, how about we repeat my unanswered question? See 09.46 and 09.56.
Naomi, "they" made the promise, "they" won the vote, "they" now have to deal with the fact that "they" made the promise, whether or not "they" were in a position to make such a promise.

If you want "my" opinion, the £350M was wrong - the net contribution to the EU was much lower, and we'll possibly even be the poorer for not being members, which "their" opponents were pointing out at the time. But assuming we are financially richer, then certainly "they" are in a position to spend 100% of those extra riches on the NHS if "they" choose to do so, as "they" promised.
Ellipsis, that is entirely irrational, not to mention disingenuous. You KNOW 'they' weren't in a position to either make or to fulfil any promises - and since I have never thought you a fool, I really don't believe that is too difficult for you to understand.
OK, thanks for your opinion, naomi. And your answer to TCL's question is ... ?
What's his question?

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