Just When You Thought It Was Over

[douglas9401]

How many times can this kind of thing be brushed aside by the great and the good?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-58932593

[jno]

maybe, douglas, but if you remember the howls of outrage when they pursued Cliff Richard - and the BBC had to pay out £2m for daring to cover the matter...

[jno]

you may well be right that it went higher up than the police, Gromit, but they're the ones getting this week's kicking:

///Police investigations into allegations of child abuse against a former MP were marred by "a series of failings", a report has found.
The Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse (IICSA) said Leicestershire Police officers "shut down" investigations into Lord Janner "without pursuing all inquiries".///

[pixie374]

Jno, I think the BBC was more an invasion of privacy thing, especially as he hadn't been convicted of anything. But, that isn't an excuse for the police to not investigate anybody.

[douglas9401]

I seem to remember the howls of outrage were over our national broadcaster behaving like paparazzi rather than the due process which was lost in the dust kicked up by the helicopter.

Time will tell though.

[Hopkirk]

Cliff Richard was probably hounded because of the Karl Beech situation. He was implicated in that

[Gromit]

The Police were leaned on. Obviously.
A child rapist, and they don’t want to investigate?
Chief Constables, detectives, Commanders were thinking about their future employment and pensions rather than getting justice for the victims.

[jno]

not exactly paparazzi, douglas, or a breach of privacy, considering the unfortunate victim was, I think, in Barbados at the time? The police raided his house, which they were either right or wrong to do, and tipped off the BBC, who covered what was a news story. If he'd been subsequently found guilty of something, I wonder if it would still have been an outrage.

[pixie374]

I think it should still have been, jno. I've always disagreed with anyone being named and shamed.... until and unless they are found guilty. Then, fine.
I understand him being investigated could be seen as "News", but- I think the media should also take some responsibility for their own reports.

[Hopkirk]

I normally back the BBC, but was shocked at their helicopter antics over Cliff's home.

[Gromit]

Apparently (if true), Michael Hirst, Chief Constable of Leicestershire Police at the time, and Janner were in the same Freemasons Lodge.

[jno]

the Mail made that suggestion in 2015, shortly after Janner experienced the world most sudden-onset dementia.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3064947/Lord-Janner-director-firm-THREE-WEEKS-ago-emerges-damning-dossier-alleges-police-chief-allowed-peer-molest-young-boys.html

[Gromit]

Jno,
A similar fate befell Earnest Saunders.

He was sentenced to five years' imprisonment, but released after 10 months as he was believed to be suffering from Alzheimer's disease, which is incurable. He subsequently made an instant recovery on release from prison.

[royfromaus]

Ernest Saunders wouldn't happen to be Jewish would he?

[Gromit]

Coincidentally, Earnest Saunders was also very rich and Jewish and evaded justice.

[jno]

yes, I remember Saunders. Sometimes medical miracles happen when you most expect it.

[Peter Pedant]

Problem is that dead people cant defend themselves

and secondly is evidential - the accused does NOT say
"look everybody I am abusing this child"

[Peter Pedant]

Ernest Saunders had pseudo-dementia secondary to depression

I have seen it - they look pretty ga-ga and make mistakes, and then when they retire ( get released, kill someone, divorce or whatever) they get better
Completely taken in

what someone can act foo-foo and not be foo-foo ? yup

[youngmafbog]

//Apparently (if true), Michael Hirst, Chief Constable of Leicestershire Police at the time, and Janner were in the same Freemasons Lodge.//

Thats it then - Guilty.

*eye roll*

[hellywelly4]

I know a lady who nearly became a victim but incredibly she stood up to them and refused to take her clothes off unless her mother was called.She was about 8. That was at her school.