Will There Ever Be A Political Party That Isn't In Thrall To The Eco Lunatics?

[dave50]

I have no-one to vote for at the moment as all three main parties have been taken in by greta and her ilk and are determined to career down a path of eco poverty and industrial destruction. I thought the Conservative party had more sense than to be taken in.

[fcc]

^^ ^^
Well said.

[bobbinwales]

But its your children or grandchildren that will suffer most from C C jourdain, you and maybe me are to old and will not see the worst. We've made a mess for the next generation

[Ellipsis]

> I'd rather be comfortable.

Sums it up, really ...

[jourdain2]

As the last generation did for us bobinwales. Every generation has and reacts to different challenges in their own way. My grandchildren (and great-grandchildren - I have 3) will react to these challenges and overcome them as we overcame the ones facing us. New solutions will evolve.

[New Judge]

//….climate change is a real issue and requires some kind of response even if you disagree about what that should be.//

Indeed. And “what should be done” is wide ranging, from almost nothing, in the case of the UK because its emissions are two pennorth of diddly squat, through to quite a lot in the case of India and China because they are the world’s greatest sources of emissions and show little or no sign of doing anything significant. There’s a whole lot in between but this government seems intent in bankrupting people, businesses and the economy in a reckless drive towards a ridiculous goal that they call “net zero.” A debate is necessary to see whether people really want that in the same way that a debate was necessary to see whether the country wanted to continue its membership of the EU (where, similarly, there was also near unanimity among the main parties).

The undoubted fact is that the UK could reduce its emissions to zero tomorrow and it would make precisely no difference whatsoever to the perceived problem. Bankrupting the country for no apparent reason other than looking good on the world stage doesn’t seem particularly smart by any measure. If the countries that are making the greatest contribution to the problem somehow need such a gesture to “encourage” them to do what they need to do, it might be questioned whether their hearts are really in it (and I think I know the answer to that question).

[youngmafbog]

It's the new religion and on here it seems to be the same ones who have the Covid religion right behind it.

Personally, after a lifetime of voting Tory I can no longer do so while this arrogant liar in No10 continues along this economically illiterate path.

I have no problem with reducing the reliance on fossil fuels, not for the so called CO2 mandate but for the clear and measurable pollution caused. But it must be done timely and not put those at the bottom of the food chain in danger or bearing the brunt of it which is exactly what Johnson is doing.

[fcc]

bobbinwales how can you bleat on about climate change when you stated on another link that you had been abroad last week,
unless you went by rowing boat,or swam there.

[Mozz71]

//bobbinwales how can you bleat on about climate change when you stated on another link that you had been abroad last week,
unless you went by rowing boat,or swam there.//

Or, y'know, ferry or Eurostar. Flying is not the only option fcc.

[fcc]

So what fuels a ferry or a train?

[Mozz71]

Indeed, but that's a far smaller carbon footprint than flying. Unless you're going to criticise Bobbinwales evertime the get in their car.

Of course, if they flew, then it's a moot point.

[douglas9401]

"I thought the Conservative party had more sense than to be taken in."

The party may have more sense, collectively, but someone has the ear of the top dawg so we'll Carrie on regardless for a while.

[fcc]

I would not criticise anyone for getting in a car or going on holiday,
it's bobbinwales who was moaning about how we are destroying the
planet,practice what you preach.