It is correct. The Covid outcome will last not too long but the Brexit is a more fundamental issue which we are now seeing come to pass such as driver shortages and the lack of fruit picking labour.
William51
It is correct. The Covid outcome will last not too long but the Brexit is a more fundamental issue which we are now seeing come to pass such as driver shortages and the lack of fruit picking labour
As has been shown there is a lack of drivers across europe so continually blaming it on Brexit is wrong
Covid will have a massively long lasting effect on healthcare worldwide and waiting lists and the effects will last longer than Brexit
Agree stickbottle. I was desperate to Remain for all sort's of reasons and was gutted when the result came through, I wish the result was different but is done and we can't turn back now. Am sure it would of been better to stay but theres no pint in harping on about it, we are where we are and after make the best of it. The last thing we need now is for another referendum or for elections to be fought on the issue of Rejoining. It would cause more trouble to try to turn back the clock, we after wait maybe 10 year's before even thinking about it. I've no idea why some on here seem delighted at every peace of bad news and gleefully say "its Brexit I told you so ha ha"
bobinwales: "I was desperate to Remain for all sort's of reasons " - Care to share those? I was shocked when brexit won I thought we'd remain TBH but I think the remain campaign got too focused on project fear rather than telling us the positive things about remaining. Even now it's hard to get a remainer to tell us why we should have remained rather than trying to frighten us about the consequences of not remaining.
OK TTT. I'm off to work now but could list my reasons quick now. Mainly our economy was tied so much to EU, trade both ways, it would take years to negotiate new deals. Also we rely so much on free movement of labour for seasonal work especially farmwork and hospitality. Also I knew we would after keep paying in for a few years as we were contracted and had benefitted anyway from some things. I also knew how awkward EU would make it for us to leave as a deterrant to others and to discourage us from making the final move to leave.
But thats done and we'er out. Lets make the best of it and look forward not back. The time to look back and think was it right is in 10 years
Thanks everyone for your replies, interesting range of views, opinions, comments etc. I was going to reply with "Hahaha October Fools" but I'll refrain from that flippant remark, what I said was bound to cause the usual denials of Post B*exit reality. Good to see it said that the BBC were only reporting on events 'unbiased as they are' rather than with the spin we see prevalent elsewhere in the media.
So hmm..
Spicerack
'BBC- FACT.
I can see where you're going wrong there, roobaba.'
I will admit there have been rumours that the BBC has been infiltrated by a 'right-wing influence' to promote lies and suchlike, but I guess the BBC still remains the bastion of truth, at least the best we can hope for in our postmodernist world where truth is lies and lies are truth, it's just a question of what you 'want to believe'.
ToraToraTora
'Gromit I was referring to remoaners in like the OPer.'
I have my EU Citizen pin badge, I would much rather have an extra-large Global Citizen pin badge, but that may be simply too far beyond the 'current generation of fools' to appreciate, I'd be much too subtle by far! ;O)
ToraToraTora
'Obviously literacy is a problem in the 5C.'
Literacy is a problem in society, as is poverty.
Bobbisox1
'How utterly boring that even after 31 January 2020, 11:00 pm GMT, sore losers still go on about it , it was a fair vote ,would those who whinge like the best of 3 ?'
It's not for me to comment, so I won't.. good you say. The way I see it is that here, not that I'm here very often or for very long.. is that frequently it's the AB VLI's just stirring up trouble.. maybe?.. possibly?
Politics Phil put up a Youtube news item yesterday especially for me - 'Brexit Media: Brexit Twice as Bad as Covid' nice one, watch and enjoy! :O)
//Thanks bob, it does seem from your reasons that you just thought it would be painful to leave rather than any sort of benefit to staying.//
Hope your still looking in TTT. Yes, thats largely true. Business likes stability or at least certainty so it can plan and I could see that Brexit would bring alot of uncertainty and hiccups on the way for the first 5 years. I also like my foreign holidays in Europe
Good to see it said that the BBC were only reporting on events 'unbiased as they are'
they have been 'caught' by Martin bashir no less, and have to admit a) there is a problem, b) it needs fixing
and that includes - - a)perceived bias in reporting the news - and b)reporting as news, something that isnt
I have been particularly critical of their reporting of Afghan - they have betrayed and booted out foreigners and now they cant go to school - - - so what?
they also shot a few polio vaccinators, which has really possed me off, and so I particularly object to the Taliban as popular liberators.....
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