Rejoice , Rejoice.

[gulliver1]

The day gets better as it goes on ,, Labour are six points ahead of the Tories in the latest opinion poll,
Leaving the Disgraced Tory party of greed and sleaze trailing behind ,,,,, enough is enough Boris,,
... just Go..

[ToraToraTora]

funny how opinion wanes when the purveyor is asked to back it with their own dosh.

[gulliver1]

16.01 That was just for you tgt.

[ToraToraTora]

who is TGT?

[bobbinwales]

//Grants Shapps ,and now JRM has been found out//

Do you have more info please gulliver. It looks to me as if there weak claims by someone trying to find sleaze when really they just dislike someone who has money or owns a company. If they uncover it, good, but theres nothing being investigated a sar as I can see

[bobbinwales]

He'll never answer that TTT. You and I know what he means by it but he dont want to get banned

[davebro]

The quote is actually "You have to ask yourself - "Do I feel lucky" - Well do you punk?" (for TTT's avatar!)

[ToraToraTora]

Labour have existed for 120 years, they have been in power for 33 of those and 10 of those are Tory Lite. Real Labour last won in 1974. Only 3 Labour leaders have ever won a GE. Real Labour will never win again because UK does not want a Psuedo Communist Terrorist supporting bunch of anti semitic Nazis in power. The mid term dip is to be expected. Rodders has had over 2 years of open goals and he still can't score.

[Mozz71]

Tora, just to say, "Real Labour" doesn't have to win again. They don't have to be the traditional working man's party anymore (more's the pity). They just have to be "not Tories".

[ToraToraTora]

indeed Mozz, St Tony figured that out. The current Labour party appear to have forgotten the lessons of that.

[piper107]

tora .not hope in hell

[ToraToraTora]

piper, you mean Labour have not got a hope in hell? If so I agree, if not what are you offering on the Tories?

[New Judge]

They just have to be "not Tories".

Well they were just "not Tories" in the last four General Elections and they failed to come up with the goods.

[10ClarionSt]

Labour may claw a lot of seats back next time but I don't think they will have an over all majority. I think "The Red Wall" will be re-established because it only fell for 2 reasons:

1. Jeremy Corbin
2. Brexit.

Voters wanted wanted both out of the way. But who knows? Our constituency had been Labour for 50 years but fell to the Tories. Only by a slender margin, so the next election will be very interesting. My feeling is that it will revert to Labour.

[naomi24]

Gulliver you forgot to say ‘could this be the end’. You’re slipping.

[ichkeria]

“ if Labour had a leader with some kind of plan”

I think you’ll find when it comes to planning its Starmer 1 Johnson 0.
Lack of a plan is surely the big criticism of the PM.
As for personality well I won’t quote Churchill on Attlee again. Nor the result of the 1945 election.
Mind you there’s no election imminent.

[ichkeria]

All this could be eased if the PM simply acknowledged his huge blunder re Owen Paterson.

[ToraToraTora]

ich: "I think you’ll find when it comes to planning its Starmer 1 Johnson 0." - err at what? What has Rodders won?

[gulliver1]

I See Boris is on tv telling all his radicalised supporters what good he achieved at Cop 26, just to try and take your minds of the sleaze scandal that he has allowed his party to get into, although he seemsto think Cop26 was staged at Edinburgh and not Glasgow ..wonder what planet he thinks he lives on.??

[ToraToraTora]

so no guts to back your own view then gully? Right oh!

[10ClarionSt]

You keep banging on about that, Tora. The grass roots of the Labour Party that you are talking about were killed off when Thatcher destroyed the industrial base of this country, from which it has never recovered. Labour just needs to connect with ordinary people. It may well be that voters in this country take a look at what's on offer on both sides and decide that both are just a bag of manure.