Are The Scientists Right?

[diddlydo]

For all those on here who live by what the scientists say and support Boris at the same time, what do you make of this?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/30/boris-johnson-contradicts-expert-advice-to-cancel-christmas-socialising

[naomi24]

Your usual supplier will be devastated, diddly.

[Peter Pedant]

// hilary jones (a gp) said not long ago that masks were not only useless but potentially dangerous,//
Jean Lumley showed that in 1959
and I agree that people have said that recent papers show there is an effect.
Thanks for the refs.

[Peter Pedant]

Many thanks for the refs
People should read them
rather than recycle a few of the usual one liners

Nature article sums it up.... and says mask up

ref 40 and 41 - transmission during long haul aircraft flight.
40. Basically they looked at 5 flights ( 3 + 2) no cases on the masked flight and 70 on the unmasked.... out of 2238
41, Look back at one flight - one positive around flight and 65 cases develop at the flights end and within 7 d
Clear superspreader - sitting near the fella and not frooda ventilation. That can be showed by a map of who got what.
But DOESN'T show that if he had been masked , it would have prevented transmission

ALOT of derived articles - so and so says it is a good idea....

still - a better read than the average AB thread ....

some benefit - but certainly not as striking as vacciantion

[theshedman]

Those supermarkets are not going to challenge non mask-wearers diddly because of the abuse they will get from them and the fact that some may get attacked . Not because they do not want to enforce it. Too many people like you that don't want to follow the rules.

[William51]

Boris is not stupid, he is right. People should go about there lives as usual but take precautions when needed.

[Peter Pedant]

observationally - - - = I looked
almost everyone doing masks in the Arndale Manchester

how do people stop glasses being steamed up?