Where Are Labour This Morning?

[lankeela]

Licking their wounds? Maybe voters are just as fed up with their constant sniping at the government yet not offering a viable solution to current problems.

[gulliver1]

Davebro 17.20 Before the Election you posted "Tories will win ".. but they lost.
After holding N/S for many many years. The biggest By election swing against
a UK Government for over 40 years...... Didn't get it right did you...just saying.

[ichkeria]

"He is dead in the water anyway
Whilst despite not expecting to win the number of votes they only just managed tells you everything you need to know about how it is going for Labour "

Another who doesn't get tactical voting?

[davebro]

Gully - no I admit I got it wrong this time but it's no big deal (only 78 majority now & 162 more than Labour!). Thankfully Tories will probably be in govt for the rest of my life!

[ichkeria]

Developing that point further, for better or worse we have a voting system that is made for two-party politics and we have two main opposition parties. Therefore there is a choice to be made by voters whose main aim is to vote against the government.
There is no way a split vote is going to unseat a majority of nearly 23,000 or even ones much smaller.
Labour may have come a distant second in 2019, but as I said before, with those sorts of majorities "second" doesn't count. You may as well be third, fourth, etc. There was an unspoken agreement that Labour in N Shropshire would give the Tories a clear run; the opposite has happened in other seats. Sir Ed thinks mind you that there's no need for a formal pact as "voters can work it out for themselves" but that's slightly disingenuous. It isn't "just" the voters who comply though but the parties too: however that's the love which for now at any rate dare not speak its name.

[lankeela]

Well has anyone seen any Labour MPs since the by election? They are certainly keeping their heads down.

[Stickybottle]

Avatar Image ichkeria
"He is dead in the water anyway
Whilst despite not expecting to win the number of votes they only just managed tells you everything you need to know about how it is going for Labour "

Another who doesn't get tactical voting?

Lol
How many do tactical voting in a by election ?
I can understand in a GE but surely in a BE you would give your candidate a decent shot or even a show of strength at the very least ?
Opportunity missed in light of the massive lost vote for the Tories
The Lib Dem candidate gave it a good shot for sure and look what happened ?!

[ichkeria]

No in a by-election you are probably far more likely to vote tactically.
People in any event will only vote to give their candidate “a good showing” if they think that candidate cannot win and neither can anyone else they might fancy.
Plainly in N Shropshire people felt that uniting behind one candidate would work.

[gulliver1]

Davebro @12.20 , You must be at least in your nineties then.