Covid Hispital Cases Highest Since March

[Stickybottle]

And we have not had the peak yet

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-59816431

A third of London Fire Engines not active due to staff shortages

So what happened to Omicron being less severe ?

Still got super spreader New Year to come yet as well !

[royfromaus]

I don't use Duckduckgo but I think YMB means it won't by default take you to BBC, Guardian and Sky which seems to be Google's go to news outlets.

[royfromaus]

I do hope you are not suggesting a bit of number manipulation, ParsleyDumpling?

[THECORBYLOON]

I use the Government website to get the figures.

[ParsleyDumpling]

Maybe just highlighting the fact that hospital numbers of patients with Covid are made up of two different groups ;-)

[THECORBYLOON]

"By all accounts the vast number of Covid cases in hospital are only confirmed once the patient has been tested."

If you mean they were not admitted as a result of having COVID, what percentage does that represent?

[pixie374]

That's what I'm asking sticky. How many "because of covid" and how many "with". I'm sure he'll give details soon.

[royfromaus]

He'll put up a BBC or Guardian link that says some bloke said this...

[pixie374]

Pointless....

[Sqad]

pixie

A//// superspreader is good, if it does little damage. Immunises people, and the more that catch it, the less it needs to mutate./////

I am also confused as I thought it was the opposite.

The more the virus spreads, the greater chance of mutation either to a less dangerous strain or a more dangerous one.

Yes, it would be counter productive to kill its host, but in doing so the host would be off work, then in hospital , the in ITU and then dead. That takes time , damages the economy and puts a strain on health resources.

I may well be wrong in criticizing your evaluation and interpretation.

[ParsleyDumpling]

I read it in the Daily Wail (I know), today. Chris Hopson (of NHS Providers), thinks as many as 1 in 4 Covid patients in London were admitted for other reasons. My point is that a distinction is not being made between those admitted with, or of, Covid.

[pixie374]

I may well be wrong too, sqad. As far as I have seen... viruses and bacteria mutate most, when they are in danger. Which is why bacteria has immunised itself against antibiotics being wrongly used.
The most evolved, longterm, successful viruses (like colds) have survived, by not killing their hosts, but being free to reproduce.
At some point, covid will either mutate the same way- or kill every host. No virus has ever done that yet. They evolve to survive.

[THECORBYLOON]

"Chris Hopson (of NHS Providers), thinks as many as 1 in 4 Covid patients in London were admitted for other reasons."

How is one in four or 25%, a vast number?

[Ellipsis]

Anybody in hospital with Covid has to be kept away from people who don't have Covid, no matter whether or not it was Covid that put them in hospital. This fact stretches resources. Likewise flu or Ebola, but Covid is a bit more common at present.

You can't work in a job that puts you in contact with vulnerable people if you have Covid. Like, cutting injured people out of cars, or rescuing burnt people from buildings.

Despite this, I assume the Government's number crunchers have done the projections and calculated the system won't collapse, and that's why (in England at least) we are as we are.

[LadyCG]

If a person is admitted with, say, end-stage heart failure but they happen to have Covid-19, they are counted. Ordinary people have other health problems besides Covid-19. If such a person were to die in hospital with Covid-19, they become a Covid-19 statistic and falsely elevate the number of Covid-19 deaths.

What The Funicular are people going to grasp this?

[pixie374]

We know, lcg.... and ignoring those whose treatments have been stopped, just in case.
I doubt anyone is going with official statistics more.

[nailit]

//Covid Hispital Cases Highest Since March//
Must be the fault of the double vaxxed for failing to have their booster....

[saladdodger]

But why are so many in hospital with it ?

.........because 90% of them haven't had a booster

[nailit]

Oh hang on...
Vax No 4 coming soon.
So it will be the fault of the booster 'Deniers'

[douglas9401]

I blame the foodbanks. I was saying that, among other things, to a geezer and his mate in a van today.

[Ellipsis]

Most of the adult population are vaccinated, and most adults in hospital with Covid aren't vaccinated. What does this tell us?