Czech Singer Dies Of Covid

[Stickybottle]

That she caught intentionally whilst unvaccinated :

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60050996

Why would you accelerate natural selection in such a manner ?

[Stickybottle]

Oh dear indeed !
Be fair pixie
At least put in the whole paragraph :
Although their families did not specify the cause of their deaths, their lawyer Edouard de Lamaze confirmed they had both contracted the virus.

My guess is they did not die as a complication as a result of having a vaccine
I would err more towards shortness of breath arising from complications of contracting Covid
As the headline suggests
But as I say it is a guess

What is your guess ?

[Sqad]

I agree with bednobs @13.42

[pixie374]

They contracted it yes, as did the person in the last link. But didn't state it as a "cause". I'm not suggesting they didn't have it at all.

Anyway, plough on, there must be "some" genuine cases I'm sure. Or, is your aim to show how much misinformation and confusion is flying around?

[pixie374]

I wouldn't guess at a cause of death. They either know or they don't.

[Peter Pedant]

thing you are ready for - ABers that is!
take a camel's hump and call it a death curve during covid wave
b. shave off the certified covid deaths
c. you should now get the 'usual' flattish death line
d. you dont
e. there is still a raised plateau

this is the thing about covid deaths - there arent less because of covid - there are more

The alternative is that you are ill with a broken splonk and are also covid - and it doesnt matter - as NJ so often says, because everyone knows Flu = covid
and so if you die when have a broken splonk, it because of the splonk ( no go) and not covid silly!
which strikes me as a crazy argument as we know covid kills normal people

ho hum the argument goes on and the world goes on turning

[and yeah the av ABer DOES have permission to quip - "wossee fooing on abart?" - die from covid - silly man of course you dont!"

[Peter Pedant]

oh dear indeed
did I just read -- if you have shortness of breath, you cant die from Covid
as TTT so often says - - righto!

[pixie374]

Nobody is saying either, pp. It isn't all or nothing. Just asking for a bit of truth and accuracy.

[pixie374]

And... depends if you believe "certified covid deaths" are all accurate. SB is busy showing us how easy it is to mislead.

[Sqad]

Two days before she died, she wrote on social media that she was recovering: "Now there will be theatre, sauna, a concert".

///On Sunday morning, the day she died, Ms Horka said she was feeling better and dressed to go for a walk. But then her back started hurting, so she went to lie down in her bedroom.

"In about 10 minutes it was all over," her son said. "She choked to death"./////

If that is a sum total of the situation, it doesnt sound like a Covid death to me.

[Stickybottle]

Covid is rarely given as the direct cause of death

It is generally
Complications arising from having contracted the disease or as an underlying factor
It exacerbates other conditions

That was certainly how it was portrayed on the death certificate of my partners mother

[Stickybottle]

pixie374
And... depends if you believe "certified covid deaths" are all accurate. SB is busy showing us how easy it is to mislead.
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Oh you mean like the accurate data on vaccine deaths that you have failed to provide despite numerous requests to back up your misleading ‘information’ ?

[pixie374]

Could be sometimes, plus people can die of it, or with it, or because of it. PP seems to not be counting the people who died without it, whose treatments were stopped/ not started. All "excess" deaths too.

[pixie374]

Why would I know that, SB? For about the 5th time, I have never claimed to have those figures. Find them yourself if you want them.

[Peter Pedant]

// Why is PP not vaccinated? For gawds sake get a grip.//
I am triple
but I am also treated leukaemia

and for some reason part of the madness is the idea I will give it to people younger than me whereas being over 70 I am very likely to get it from THEM

[pixie374]

Btw, my "information", is that "some" people have died or been debilitated from a vaccine. That's it. Are you saying that isn't the case?

[Stickybottle]

pixie374
Why would I know that, SB? For about the 5th time, I have never claimed to have those figures. Find them yourself if you want them.
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But you have constantly made reference to them time and again !
You have misleadingly claimed to have knowledge of death and severe complications on several occasions
So where is the empirical evidence ?

[Peter Pedant]

wot fooing wrong widd him
nuffin wrong with pregnancy and covid.....( dear YMF) bless!

The extended perinatal mortality rate for women who gave birth within 28 d of a COVID-19 diagnosis was 22.6 per 1,000 births (95% CI 12.9−38.5; pandemic background rate 5.6 per 1,000 births;

put simply for ABers

The extended dead baby rate for women who gave birth within 28 d of a COVID diagnosis was 22.6 and pandemic background rate 5.6 (dead babies)
Four times more likely unvacc and about to give birth to have a dead baby

ho hum - keep on lying ABers !

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-021-01666-2
[long word warning]

[pixie374]

No I haven't SB. That's a total lie. Only you have gone on about figures. I know a client who has been fully injured by a vaccine (severe angina attacks). You must be confusing me with someone else.

[Stickybottle]

pixie374
No I haven't SB. That's a total lie. Only you have gone on about figures. I know a client who has been fully injured by a vaccine (severe angina attacks). You must be confusing me with someone else.

Lol
If you say so dear !

https://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/Question1772456-3.html

[pixie374]

I do, I did. Maybe read it again, so I don't have to remind you on a daily basis.
Unless you are suggesting that vaccines are 100% safe for everyone always, then you aren't disagreeing.
I've said before, but this thread really shows it... you only seem to read the first three words of something- and make a wild kneejerk presumption from there.