Jimmy Carr's Career Ending Routine?

[mushroom25]

Jimmy Carr makes light of the holocaust -
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-60261876

rightly condemned. and yet -

the show was released on christmas day. how come it's taken a month for anyone to notice?

[jno]

Roma have pointed out that, while the government have condemned the joke, they are busy passing anti-Roma legislation

https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2022/feb/07/romas-accuse-government-of-hypocrisy-over-jimmy-carr-joke

[sunny-dave]

It's not about intelligence - or even a University Education (which, believe me, is nothing to do with intelligence anyway).

Nor is it about context (however much people might wish parrot that as a defence of the indefensible).

It's about basic human decency and empathy - which Carr (and his mate Gervais) seem to be so patently lacking in.

Their sad attempts at humour revolve around humiliation of the weak and sniggering with the strong (how often have you cringed as one of these two apologies for comedians mocks a person who is weaker and less articulate than they are).

It's not cancel culture to say that Carr has overstepped every bound of normal decency and should suffer the consequences.

[gness]

They went to university...etc... :-))) One of the daftest comments ever on AB.

Then thank god mine came out of university better.

[pixie374]

I totally disagree, dave... as you probably noticed :-)
It doesn't matter who personally likes it, or finds it funny- it isn't serious.
I actually missed the whole Whoopi Goldberg thing, except a few online mentions. But- was she actually trying to be serious?
We just can't cancel everyone that someone somewhere finds offensive.

[sunny-dave]

... and to dispose of the "second-hand outrage" comments that will be along shortly, I actually have Netflix and watched the relevant part of the show in detail - if Carr is hoping for a 'contextual escape clause' then he's going to have to spin some quite abstruse interpretations onto quite straightforwardly offensive verbiage.

Looking through the "blue tick glitterati" on Twitter, it's dispiriting how few have even been able to bring themselves to disown the joke, let alone the man - one or two are conspicuous by their silence when they would have been melting their keyboards if the 'joke' had targeted Jews rather than Gypsis.

[sunny-dave]

Gypsies

[pixie374]

I think you are taking it too seriously.... he knows how people see gypsies. That's it.

[gness]

It's not about what someone somewhere finds offensive, Pixie.

It's him using what happened to thousands of men, women, children and babies to get a cheap laugh from an audience.
You'd not be excusing him if your grandchild had suffered that awful death.

[ladybirder]

Dave, gness, have you watched Ricky G's "Derek"?

https://www.channel4.com/programmes/derek

[gness]

Neither of us like him, LB so haven’t watched that. Should we?

[pixie374]

Gness, I could pretty much say that any comedian could offend someone somewhere. I don't take it personally, I watch those I like, and those I don't, I leave to others. It's literally harmless.
There have been some... where I have both felt offended, and also laughed. Maybe a dark sense of humour. But, each to their own.

[pixie374]

Yes, gness. Please do. I would be really interested to see what you think. He is so different in all his roles, you could hate one and love another.

[archibaldy]

I watched that show and don't even remember that joke so it can't have been any more offensive than his other stuff, just Jimmy being Jimmy.

[pixie374]

Ah, but this one has been publicised.... no doubt, his aim...

[jno]

Carr's been saying something that isn't widely acknowledged: the holocaust wasn't just about eliminating Jews. Roma were victims too. So were gays and the disabled. By assuming Jews were the only victims we do rather dishonour all the others.

Did everyone actually know Roma were victims before he mentioned it?

[royfromaus]

Their sad attempts at humour revolve around humiliation of the weak
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Gypsies weak?
Know many gypsies, Dave?

[pixie374]

I don't think he did? Although it was a while ago... I only remember him mentioning gypsies. And the reaction to them is ever predictable.

[royfromaus]

Did everyone actually know Roma were victims before he mentioned it?
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Roma, yes...Sinti no.

[pixie374]

Did he mention them, roy? Honestly can't remember now. Not that it's relevant.

[royfromaus]

No, he just said Gypsies and if we're honest, not many people have a nice word to say about them.