War News Part 2

[ichkeria]

War News
War News Part 2
War News Part Three
War News Part 4

... as part one has now fallen off the bottom of the page

Sorry, I don't have a link, but CNN reporter is walking down a road on the outskirts of Kyiv, showing the remains a Russian invasion column, absolutely decimated by Ukrainian firepower.
They've removed the worst remnants of the carnage, but it's spectacular. Those lied-to poor people.

DANGER, javelin at work :-)

[bednobs]

in all honesty, it's hard to believe ANYTHING one sees/hears reported on the news about this situation
It makes me cringe every time the president comes on and says about how well they are doing, and how the cities haven't fallen because it's only the very beginning of what could be a long conflict. Although i can see why he does it of course, and how important that is

[ichkeria]

Well, this isn't a "report" it's an on-the-spot eyewitness account

[naomi24]

I agree with you, bednobs. Propaganda, as always, is at play on both sides.

[ichkeria]

This isn't "propaganda" though ...

[Ken4155]

Things are certainly not going the way Vlad had anticipated;

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/pummelled-by-ukraine-s-army-and-stymied-even-by-unarmed-civilians-the-russian-blitzkrieg-is-faltering/ar-AAUnSXK?ocid=msedgntp

[douglas9401]

Isn't it kinda what presidents do?

More or less in the job description.

Don't forget to get on with your own life as this tragedy unfolds/rolls to a conclusion, it's not compulsory viewing.

[naomi24]

I find it difficult to get excited about any news at the moment, Ich. I've no idea what to believe.

[bednobs]

but of things that you say have been largely removed?
i am under no illusion that CNN, BBC, russian news and so on put their own slant on things. I want to believe that russia is not making much progress, but don't know if that's just what i'm being fed (not by you BTW, and make no mistake, i am on your side here)

[douglas9401]

I imagine 'the removed' are the charred corpses hanging out of tank turrets, much easier to hold the room that way.

[ichkeria]

"I find it difficult to get excited about any news at the moment, Ich. I've no idea what to believe. "

Well of course naomi the big question is what will they try next of course.

"but of things that you say have been largely removed?"

As I posted above, (most of the bodies) have been removed, There was one still on the ground. What remains are the devastated remains of the vehicles, personal effects, etc
As I say, sorry I don't have a link. If you could have seen it you would know what I meant.

[jim360]

Were it only the media then I'd be inclined to agree. But it's also the pretty clear consensus of Western Intelligence services, eg the MOD's regular updates.

Of course, if Russia is prepared to drag this on, and as long as NATO chooses not to commit its own troops, then it's difficult to imagine Russia not winning eventually. But that's a long way off, and when Putin really needs a quick win and hasn't yet got one, I think it's fair to assess that things have not gone his way. The extent to which that's true is harder to know.

[tomus42]

Putin has the blood of all these people on his hands.

The Russian soldiers don't even know what they're doing there. Most of them weren't even born when the USSR existed.

How sad that the obsession of one bitter little sociopath can cause such trouble.

[ichkeria]

Zwelwnsky announces the formation of an "International legion"

Sounds familiar ....

[naomi24]

Ich, //the big question is what will they try next of course. //

And that is the big question - the most worrying, in my opinion - hence the question I posted the other day.

https://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/Question1786794.html

How far does the world let him go before enough is enough - and once enough is enough, what do we do? The noises he made to Finland and Sweden were truly chilling.

[naomi24]

//as part one has now fallen off the bottom of the page //

For anyone interested, this is part one.

https://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/Question1786667-8.html

[Peter Pedant]

hi ich
you tell 'em and they say no
xc when it is Boris b3ing super supportive....

I will look on the midday news and see what the Beeb fluffies have to warble

[ichkeria]

Someone said: if Sweden of all countries is sending 5000 missiles to oppose you you know you've been and gone and done it :

[royfromaus]

So many threads I'm just going to post this here.

https://www.reuters.com/article/ukraine-crisis-tass-hack/website-of-russias-tass-news-agency-displays-anti-putin-message-after-hack-idUKS8N2TU06C

[naomi24]

I can't open that link, roy. Here's something else.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/tass-site-hacked-with-putin-makes-us-lie-message

[ichkeria]

A piece of good news

The "Russian warship go *** yourselves" defenders of Snake island are indeed alive. They were captured by the Russians. At least to be fair that was something Russia was right about, so fair play there.