Should We Be Careful Over Who We Allow To House Young Ukrainian Mothers And Children?

[dave50]

How are people vetted in order to be approved to house these people. I worry that some of the attractive young Ukrainian mothers with children I have seen pop up on the news, who are desperate could become targeted by men who might look to take advantage of them by offering them a home.

[Buenchico]

Quote:
"To ensure a safe and suitable environment for people arriving from Ukraine we’re going to be carrying out checks (background and in-person) on you as a sponsor, your family and the accommodation that you will provide.

For example, the accommodation should be safe and free from health hazards, be heated and give your guests adequate access to bathroom and kitchen facilities. We’ll also be doing checks on those arriving from Ukraine".

Source:
https://homesforukraine.campaign.gov.uk/

[Sqad]

Vetting is not a failsafe procedure whichever method is used and there are far more lechers below the surface than above it.
The Ukrainian mothers must take their chance.

I suppose anyone who has a criminal record is excluded from housing a Ukrainian mother.

[youngmafbog]

//I suppose anyone who has a criminal record is excluded from housing a Ukrainian mother//

Why? If someone pinched a lollipop 30 years ago and got nicked (as you did in those days) should they be excluded?

[Buenchico]

>>> I suppose anyone who has a criminal record is excluded from housing a Ukrainian mother

Given that 35% of men in the UK acquire a criminal record before their 30th birthday, that would seem to exclude a lot of people!

[Sqad]

I was referring to a criminal record of a sexual nature.

[Sqad]

I assumed, incorrectly apparently, my answer would fit into the implied question of the OPer.

Common sense would have been a component of my post.

[pat2604]

What I can't understand is why this scheme can't be applied to genuine refugees from anywhere else. Probably because generosity only applies to people that look like white British!

How many people offering homes are doing it now for the money? Or perhaps to make themselves look and feel good.
Are they aware of how there lives could be totally disrupted.

[Buenchico]

>>> What I can't understand is why this scheme can't be applied to genuine refugees from anywhere else.

You're not alone, Lottie!
https://www.eadt.co.uk/news/suffolk-woman-frustrated-at-treatment-afghan-refugees-8768938

[Khandro]

Yes we should, it's a very big worry for the social services, there's some very unpleasant people out there.

[pat2604]

Thanks Chris.

And yes Khandro, the hosts and their guests should be investigated. And I'm sure a lot of those on benefits will just see it as a way to get extra money.

The ukranians shouldn't have priority over other refugees from war torn countries.

[bednobs]

My take on it pat is fourfold
1. Because they are white
2. Because they are not Muslims
3. Because it seems to be mainly women and children and niot men
4. Because there is a presumption that their culture more closely aligns with ours than say someone in afganistan

[bednobs]

Also in comparison to Afghanistan Ukrainians are seen as brave (their government and men stay to defend). I'm not saying that's right or what I think btw

[pat2604]

You are right Bedbobs. I agree with you.

But the payment scheme should be for all genuine refugees. The scheme is discrimatory.

[dannyk13]

According to Buenchico's link 4000 Afghan refugees have been housed with UK families.

[New Judge]

//What I can't understand is why this scheme can't be applied to genuine refugees from anywhere else.//

Because, as I explained in a thread about two weeks ago (and was labelled "selfish" for my trouble) letting someone live in your spare room is not even the half of it:

https://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/ChatterBank/Question1788139.html

To save you trawling through the thread, this is what I wrote (in response to the question "Would you take Ukrainian refugees"?):

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Absolutely not.

We should not be encouraging any more people to come to the UK. We do not have the accommodation for them but most importantly our public services (particularly the NHS) are under extreme pressure and cannot cope with those already here. Every service (both public and private) that anybody needs is under pressure. Schools are full; hospital waiting lists are at record levels; you can’t get any building or maintenance work done for months. Plainly and simply the country is unable to cope with any more people. It may have been different if successive governments had not encouraged the world and her husband to settle on these shores over the past two or three decades. We may have had a bit more room if the chancers, seeking succour and safety from the perils they face living in northern France, had not been allowed to make their way unhindered in their thousands to Kent. But we are where we are. First come first served and unfortunately the Ukranians have lost out.
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And this is the first response made to that post:

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I've never thought much of you New Judge but I didn't think you'd sink this low in my estimation...not that you'll care what I think because you care little about anyone else but your selfish self.
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My viewpoint hasn't changed. What's happening in Ukraine is tragic and outrageous. But unfortunately the UK has neither the accommodation nor the slack in vital services to accommodate refugees. My view might be different if the government was not allowing hundreds of people to arrive daily in Kent from the safety of northern France. But it continues to allow it. Some 4,000 (that we know of) have arrived this year so far. Last Thursday a 40 foot long rubber boat was escorted by the French navy until it met a UK Border Farce vessel to ensure its 50 or so passengers were safely transferred for their final few miles. This was the 126th such landing this year.

So, sorry, no room for Ukranians so no need to vet those hoping to host them. I'd love the UK to help out as I think if anybody qualifies as refugees it is them. But the government has chosen to spend its taxpayers' money to less worthy causes.

[youngmafbog]

Sqad, on another thread a while back a certain ABer thought anyone with any criminal record should be excluded from joining the Police no matter how petty it was and how much time had past. So it was a reasonable question.

I see others have sought to bring race into it.

[sandra4444]

I think it would be a good idea to start with that anyone on full benefits are excluded from applying.
This would to some degree eliminate those that are just doing it for the income. In any case if you are claiming full benefits it screams that they are struggling to look after themselves.

[pixie374]

I don't think the financial help is much? About £350 a month, but taking a foster child is more £750 a week.
I am not great with strangers in my house... but could probably cope with a young mother and young children. No strange men- goes both ways.
But like sqad says, police checks are no guarantee.

[sandra4444]

^^^Is that £350 just for rent, or does that include extra food shop?

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