The Perfect Example

[sandra4444]

If there was ever the perfect example of (All brawn and no brains) it would have to be awarded to the Russian forces and Putin himself.

During this special operation / war, there's been times that I've not known if to laugh or cry. Today after viewing the lines and lines of Russian tanks, and supply vehicles completely wrecked and burnt out, I must confess I'm laughing. It is however a little soured by this murderous deluded maniac Putin.

[ichkeria]

Well there are different sorts of people involved. Conscript, contract (many of whom are really conscripts forced to sign up permanently), mercenary, special forces etc. The Wagner group I’m not sure are that fearsome.
The Kadyrov Chechens when not raping little girls have largely got themselves as killed as all the others

[Gromit]

I would hazard a guess that the killings in Bucha have all the hallmarks of Wagner.

[ichkeria]

No they aren’t anything to do with the Wagner group. According to Ukraine it was members of the 64th Motorised Rifle Brigade of the 35th All-Russian Army.


But the same sort of this I fear has happened all over occupied Ukraine.

[davebro]

I would not blame Ukrainians for taking revenge on captured Russians.
"If it's war they want - it's war they'll get!"

[Gromit]

You are correct Ick,
We must add unit commander Lt Col Omurbekov Azatbek Asanbekovich to the list to be tried for war crimes.

[anneasquith]

Forgive me if this Q has been answered before on this thread.
So many have an opinion of putin ( all bad ) . As horrible/ wicked as he is, he is not doing the bombing, atrocities, on his own. What possesses the military to commit such crimes to fellow mankind ?

[Mozz71]

//...he is not doing the bombing, atrocities, on his own.//

Well, heshardly going to announce it to the world is he? We have no idea what he's ordered his generals to do and anyone who disobeys him will soon disappear.

[ichkeria]

“ As horrible/ wicked as he is, he is not doing the bombing, atrocities, on his own. What possesses the military to commit such crimes to fellow mankind ?”

Well this is what I said earlier: I gave no doubt that Putin plans genocide and/or ethnic cleansing for Ukraine: but there are plenty willing to do their own bit

[sandra4444]

Sorry ann but I can't believe what you have just written at 15.03. Putin ( all bad) first off can you give me any example of any good he's done in the last 20 years?

Also, who do you think gave the Russian forces the order to invade Ukraine?

Also, do you not think Putin knows of the constant shelling taking place day after day for the last month of civilian homes? What happens when the latter gets bombed? people other than Ukrainian forces get killed.

I think the number of children that have been killed so far is around the 160 mark, that being the ones we know about so far.

[naomi24]

Putin knows exactly what’s going on. He couldn’t give a damn about other people. Life is cheap to him and people expendable.

[ichkeria]

I think all Anne is saying is that it doesn’t need Putin’s telling people what to do for them to commit war crimes.
That doesn’t make the evil ******* any better.

[ichkeria]

Furthermore it was said that Putin could be charged with "aggression2 under the terms of the Nuremberg principles. Plainly his war is an unjustified act of aggression against a peaceful country and this would be easy enough to prove.
That's before you get on to war crimes, genocide, etc

[davebro]

Bit belated but I think NATO should go in with air cover & ground troops. Avoiding Russian territory of course.

[ichkeria]

What annoys me is talk of a ceasefire.
Actually that’s the last thing we need.
A ceasefire between Russia and Ukraine would not stop the atrocities. Why would it? The aggressor needs to be driven out

[ichkeria]

Did anyone see Zelensky’s video shown at the UN?
France 24 was the only channel still covering it at the time and they hastily pulled away after about 60 seconds.
One picture was so graphic it had actually been pre-pixelated

[jourdain2]

It is summed up in 'Let loose the dogs of war'. No matter who the masters are who start the war, they know that once the dogs are loose - they are out of control.

[davebro]

//It is summed up in 'Let loose the dogs of war'. No matter who the masters are who start the war, they know that once the dogs are loose - they are out of control.//

Yes! Let's give Putin what he deserves!

[ichkeria]

"Did anyone see Zelensky’s video shown at the UN? "

It's at one hour and 46 mins of the following
But I warn you it's the most graphic I've yet seen