Why Is Our Plan "Unnacceptable"?

[ToraToraTora]

https://news.sky.com/story/rwanda-asylum-plan-is-unacceptable-un-refugee-agency-warns-12591282
We copied the Aussies, their plan was ok. Why is ours any different?

[New Judge]

Yes Danny:

//At a press conference on the frontline in Kent, the PM deployed troops to make sure "no boat makes it to the UK undetected".//

Plenty are detected now. All that detection does is ensures a Border Farce cutter is dispatched to ensure their safe arrival. Unfortunately it doesn't say what he intends to be done with the occupants after they have been intercepted. It talks about throwing the helmsmen into jail (which I'll believe when I see it) but apart from sending 100 of them to Rwanda, not much in the way of plans for the occupants.

[dannyk13]

NJ, At least give the navy a chance to see how they operate.

[fender62]

britain will be uninhabitable in the future, with the country turned into the countries these illegals left, i see gated communities like some in the states and south africa where they are armed, some welcome them as a giant diaspora, rainbow nation diversity makes us strong mantra. id say dont get old and ill, public services will be first come first served.. and shanty towns will spring up, tribal infighting with religion thrown in, the new normal

[Gromit]

// Australia will spend nearly $812m on its offshore immigration processing system next year – just under $3.4m for each of the 239 people now held on Nauru or in Papua New Guinea.

On the figures presented in Tuesday’s budget, it costs Australian taxpayers $9,305 every day for each person held offshore. //

It is obvious that there is just not the money to make much of a dent into the 28,000 illegal migrants.
Sad to say, this is just a gimmick before the local elections. My prediction is between 20-40 will eventually be taken to Rwanda.

[Gromit]

// According to Home Office figures, at least 4,617 people have reached the UK by small boat so far this year //

Why has that inept Patel not been fired ?

[davebro]

I don't think it's down to a single person - these things will be discussed at length in cabinet & collective decisions taken. Who would replace her to do things differently?

[Old_Geezer]

Sounds expensive to fly them out to Rwanda, but I see it described as a one-way ticket to Rwanda, so if they opt not to accept asylum there they have a long expensive trip ahead of them before they are once again flown back to have another go. If it doesn't convince these illegal economic immigrants that it's not worth trying to abuse this nation, and to apply for asylum nearer their homeland, then they must clearly be insane. Seems perfectly reasonable (if expensive) and completely humane. Let's hope it works as well as possible.

[Gromit]

Patel is the Home Secretary. She is responsible for the failure to stop 28,000 illegal entries last year and 4,600 this year.

Are we really prepared to spend £47.6Million on this ?

[jourdain2]

I wonder if the politicians have considered trying the French method of curbing enthusiasm to live there? From about 2006 (can't remember exact date) anyone going to live in France had to buy their own full , private health insurance. (People who had been resident for 5 years or more could access the French system - I qualified , thank goodness.) Not only that, but French Social services were also closed to them until the same 5 year period had elapsed.
This applied even if you had paid into/were paying into the URSSAF (Nat. Ins.).
I'm not sure what they are doing about all the migrants, but one of Le Pen's planks is differential treatment.

[dannyk13]

Gromit, only you has mentioned £47.6 million pounds.Wait and see what the actual cost turns out to be.

[Khandro]

The cost of housing and payment allowances for asylum seekers has almost doubled since 2018, analysis has found. It now costs £430 million per year to provide housing and payments to people who have claimed asylum in the UK and are waiting for their applications to be processed.

[New Judge]

//Sad to say, this is just a gimmick before the local elections. //

For once, Gromit, we are in entire agreement.

//I wonder if the politicians have considered trying the French method of curbing enthusiasm to live there? From about 2006 (can't remember exact date) anyone going to live in France had to buy their own full , private health insurance.//

I doubt they've considered for the simple fact that the NHS is free at the point of delivery. And no politician of any hue (especially any that are likely to be in a position to change it) will countenance any interference with that.

//Why has that inept Patel not been fired ?//

It would have made no difference, whoever was HS. No party has any intention of changing the laws and treaties which make this possible.

[fender62]

Gromit, your disdain for the tory's is clear, but what is your cure for the illegals arriving, let them all in and say nowt, we have to get rid of them, and i do not care how it's done, legally or otherwise, if i had an alien spacecraft id hover them all up and send them to a distant planet.

[davebro]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_9

[Mozz71]

Personally I have no issue with the repatriation as long as the asylum seekers are well looked after and treated with kindness and respect.

[davebro]

//Personally I have no issue with the repatriation as long as the asylum seekers are well looked after and treated with kindness and respect.//

What planet? They left because they weren't being treated with kindness & respect. How would that be different if they returned?

[fender62]

Mozz71, your kindness to them, 1 they have broken the law, 2 they traveled across many free eu countries. 3 came for uk freebies and knowing they will never be returned, thye come here because it's the system is lax and we are full of do-gooders and nowt wrong with that as long as it does not effect the harmony and the system we all live under, it's clear that it does effect everything.

[Mozz71]

Dave, I'm talking about if they are repatriated to a different country than the one they came from. The country needs to be a safe haven for them, but in all honesty, I have no idea if Rwanda is or not.

[Mozz71]

Fender, your 16:30 post tells me that you have nothing but disgust for anyone seeking asylum and would gladly let them rot before lifting a finger to help them, so you're opinion isn't really one I'm going to pay much attention to. Needless to say, I'm talking about repatriating them to a different country, which is what this thread is about. I'm sure your comfortable life will not be unduly affected by their misery.

[davebro]

sorry - I think you need a different form of words.


repatriation
noun
the return of someone to their own country.