Boris Getting Deeper In The Doo-Do

[Hymie]

Right now, the only persons in the UK who believe that Boris Johnson was not lying to parliament in his statements re partygate must be TTT and Naomi24.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61566410

[FatticusInch]

I’m all for reasoned political debate.
Sadly, there’s no reasoning with blind loyalty to a proven liar.
A man who has nothing to hide would not have misled parliament and had a covert meeting with Sue Gray but tried to keep it quiet.
Even watching his press conference it’s obvious he’s struggling to keep a straight face.
What the devoted fail to realise is that he’s laughing at them too, in the same manner that he’s laughing at his own backbenchers, just like he and his government clapped the NHS and key workers on a Thursday night then partied away on Fridays and Saturdays.
People weren’t even allowed to sing hymns at funerals yet one minister took a karaoke machine to a Downing St party.
Diabolical.

[FatticusInch]

The Bullingdon Club culture carried on at Downing St whilst he held office.
How they treated the security and cleaning staff is exactly how his government and officials regard the public.

[ToraToraTora]

fatticus: "I’m all for reasoned political debate." - me too but all you lot ever do is bash Boris, Brexit and anything else democratically decided by the people that you don't agree with. You take trivia in isolation without ever look at the big picture. You then level accusations that are basically proclamations with no supporting data. When asked to provide evidence you whine that we don't agree with you. Fortunately for you we have to take it easy because it's 11 v 12 to use the football vernacular.

[FatticusInch]

No supporting data? Lol, you’re worse than Naomi.
Furthermore you must have lost a few more marbles during your suspension because I’d like you to show me where I’ve mentioned Brexit?
Good luck with that me old china.

[ToraToraTora]

fatticus: "I’d like you to show me where I’ve mentioned Brexit? " - It's not all about you, me old china - another English lesson is needed I see. I used the phrase: "me too but all you lot ever do is bash Boris, Brexit and anything else democratically decided by the people that you don't agree with." - note the words, "you lot" that means a group, you belong to the same group as Gulliver, Hymie et al that only ever post about those things. Why are you lot so illiterate?

[Ellipsis]

It matters to me that we either have an idiot or a liar as our PM. Somebody who is supposed to be leading the whole country, can't even lead the building that he's in, and creates a toxic culture in which cleaners and security staff are abused at work by drunks (also at work!) during a pandemic.

[FatticusInch]

Lol, is this the evidence you alluded to?
https://mobile.twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1529438209230381056
Seems it’s not only ordinary folk wanting the Prime Minister out, his own side do too.
The likes of Ellwood and Mark Harper have honour, integrity and a sense of duty in buckets.
Maybe that’s why they’re not in Cabinet?
It’s sad that their leader is a person bereft of morality, dignity and transparency.

[naomi24]

Oh dear me, fatti. What a disaster! In mentioning the Bullingdon club your ‘political’ argument is exposed as nothing more than the same old inverted snobbery that drives the other sour grape suckers stuck, politically, in the dark ages. Just like them the only politics you embrace are the politics of envy, and that renders your credibility to about … zilch.

[FatticusInch]

Never mind Nom, I wouldn’t expect you to understand how the Bullingdon culture was used against the staff in Downing St, after all, it was only made public today and you don’t really keep up with current events.
What do you make of what Tobias Ellwood and Mark Harper have said?
What do you make of their characters?

[ToraToraTora]

naomi 16:34, bang on.

[ToraToraTora]

Fatticus: "What do you make of what Tobias Ellwood and Mark Harper have said? " - Naomi will no doubt offer her own assessment but for me they no better than the disloyal poltroons(look it up) that stabbed TGL in the back because they'd lost what little bottle they had.

[Ellipsis]

In Russia, they'd be the ones trying hardest to depose Putin ...

[ToraToraTora]

if you can compare our western democracy to the Russian dictatorship like that ellipsis then that just makes you look clueless.

[Ellipsis]

I'm comparing one leader that shouldn't be there with another ...

I do agree that Boris is no Putin.

[ToraToraTora]

Like it or not our PM is democratically elected and can be democratically removed. Mad Vlad is neither, keep digging.

[Ellipsis]

I like that he's democratically elected. I don't like that he's still there - he is not fit to lead our country. He should have resigned and, failing that, his own party should have democratically removed him by now.

[Ellipsis]

... and that is what Tobias Ellwood, Mark Harper and others would like to do.

[FatticusInch]

Lol at the answer at 16.41.
Maybe look at your spelling and/or grammar before dishing out the illiteracy comments?
Furthermore, who is TGL? The Gigantic Liar?
They’ve not stabbed him in the back, they’ve told him to his face what they think about his tenure.
They don’t force others to resign for their own misdeeds.