What Are Your Thoughts On This?

[Redhelen72]

Girl, 14, with nut allergy nearly died on flight after man ate peanuts

Was he in the wrong?
Is it survival of the fittest or should her parents not put her at risk by sticking her in a tin capsule?

[Ellipsis]

> Thankfully I have no experience of anything like this.

That is the charmed life I suggested.

[AB Editor]

Moved to the News category.

And just to throw my 2p in, the idea that a person with a medical condition should not travel abroad in case someone else puts them in danger is classic ableism. Heaven forbid someone is mildly inconvenienced in order to prevent another human from having a traumatic medical emergency. Of course, this has been many people's attitude to wearing masks to protect others during covid, so it's really just more of the same.

[Ellipsis]

Thank you, Ed, good word.

ableism - discrimination in favour of able-bodied people. Ableism is discrimination and social prejudice against people with disabilities and/or people who are perceived to be disabled. Ableism characterises people as defined by their disabilities and inferior to the non-disabled.

[Prudie]

So ellipsis everyone who has no experience of a child with a severe allergy has led a charmed life. That's quite a lot of us, I hadn't realised I was so lucky.

[Spicerack]

Virtue signalling will only take you so far. It's sad that some people have handicaps and allergies and it's nice if nice people put themselves out a bit to accommodate them.
But there are limits and, anyway, not everyone's nice.
So people or their parents have to take responsibility for themselves ultimately.
Glad the ED mentioned Covid.
All these entitled people demanding other people lock down, wear masks, get jabbed. If you think all that bunkum worked* do it all to yourself and you'll be safe as houses.

[AB Editor]

Spicerack, if the limit you speak of is refraining from eating a little bag of peanuts, that's one hell of a low bar.

[Ellipsis]

> So ellipsis everyone who has no experience of a child with a severe allergy has led a charmed life.

Did I say that? No. I said "I think perhaps New Judge is either quite young or has led a bit of a charmed life, where neither he nor anybody he cares for has had any problems that would give him an ounce of sympathy for what others have to go through."

I don't have experience of travelling with people with severe allergies (although my wife does). I do have lots of experience of travelling with people with other severe disabilities that have to be "accommodated" by the able-bodied and supposedly able-minded, sometimes very unwillingly accommodated. And that experience gives me the ounce of sympathy I was referring to.

[Spicerack]

That case is an outlier. As I said, not everybody's nice like me.
Not sure about that ableism business. Sounds like you'd resent able-bodied people making allowances for less fortunate.

[TantP]

Not serving peanuts on an airline in case a passenger is allergic is no big deal. I bet half the people who munch away on them only ever eat them on Planes!

[Spicerack]

Remember that father of a severely disabled child who attacked Tony Blair (or it might have been Cameron) Insisted the boy went to a regular school.
Sometimes it's better all round if entitled people aren't pandered to.

[TantP]

Sometimes its better all round if trolls aren't pandered to. :-)

[Peter Pedant]

since everyone is throwing their foo in
various points arise

How many says they are allergic when they arent? at least 20% for penicillin ( any rash may not be allergy). but these results may not be transferable

are you under a duty to save people from their own stupidity?

Once they are involved are you under a duty to help

a) some -
b) no
c) no duty in English law - but a crime in Napoleonic code - ( failure to render) assistance a personne en danger

[pastafreak]

I abhor the term " pandered to". It belittles what are very serious issues and implies that those with particular needs or issues are simply whingeing and are best ignored.

[TantP]

I was once told by a family member to stop being so 'precious' because I asked if a restaurant had a gluten free menu!

[Peter Pedant]

Yeah I contacted a minister (Tom Sackville) who had a disabled child about a - - - -disabled child
Useless
just passed me to a minion/mandarin who didnt

empathy is dead - you have to do it to them in order for them to know what it is like

yeah foo ! for a minister to know what it is like to have a kid run over, you have to go around to his house and run over the little blighter -
not badly of course

Ewan Blair ( drunk on a pavement) is now worth £50m

[Peter Pedant]

Tant-P your family and mine should go out for a group din-dins

[beso]

Old_Geezer //Whether the law allows one to kill by peanut or not, the snacker had a duty to cease and the fact they selfishly disregarded that ought to trigger some legal reaction; and if it presently doesn't that should be changed. Lord knows it took long enough to deal with smoking; how long will it take to civilise on this issue ?//

Well said. When the dust of someone's snack spreads so easily then they shouldn't be inflicting it on others in a confined space.

[Redhelen72]

If you are highly allergic to penicillin (reaction breathing in the the dust) should you then ask that no one on a plane takes their tablet in case it releases dust?

Just a thought?

[naomi24]

RH, I know some people can't take penicillin but I've never heard of anyone being allergic to 'dust' from someone else's medication. Are you making that up?

[Redhelen72]

I have mentioned previously on here - how I had a reaction to the tablet being crushed to be mixed in with some food for someone else.
I breathed the dust in and had a reaction bad enough to call the ambulance.
So no I am not making it up!