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He said the outcome for May was a, “terrible result for the Prime Minister”. He said about Johnson's vote, “It was a good victory for the prime minister, he won comfortably" Regardless of what he said the respective PMs should do next, those comments alone are hypocritical.
17:42 Wed 08th Jun 2022
> SP/ellipsis, so are you saying that the principle you’re championing overrides circumstances and the damage that could result from applying that principle?

No, I'm just saying he's a hypocrite, which was the question in the OP.
Ellipsis, If the circumstances were mirrored it would be a simple matter of personal bigotry and you’d be right - but they’re not. Far from it.
But they aren’t mirrored and he obviously is, that’s why so many pounced on it.
Pardon?
> If the circumstances were mirrored

What do you mean? It really can't be said (in great detail) any more clearly than Corby did at 16:33, so I'll copy and paste that here as it was on the previous page now:

Rees-Mogg said, after the May confidence vote, "[Theresa May] said in 2017 she would lead the Conservative Party if she had the support of the parliamentary party. Clearly when you've got more than a third voting against you don't. So if she honours her word she will decide in the interests of the party and the nation she will go."

She did better than Johnson and a majority of one would have been fine for the current PM, according to Rees-Mogg.

He was arguing the size of the vote itself showed she had lost the support of her party, not the policies she wanted to follow.

That is why he is a hypocrite.
As I said in response to that when it was posted tge first time, the operative words are ‘in the interest of the party and the nation’. Her departure was in the interests of the party and the nation - JRM knew that, as we all did. Boris’s departure would not be in the interests of the party and the nation - and JRM knows that too - as we all should.
If May's remaining was not in the interest of the party, why did so many MPs vote in her favour?
Who knows? Remainers who knew she was doing her utmost to keep us tied to the EU perhaps? It’s anyone’s guess.
> As I said in response to that when it was posted tge first time, the operative words are ‘in the interest of the party and the nation’.

No, the operative words (when looking at the hypocrisy) are "Clearly when you've got more than a third voting against you don't [have the support of the parliamentary party.]"

But when talking about Boris Johnson's VOC, he said that a winning majority of only one would show that Johnson did [have the support of the parliamentary party.]
It seems that a few have the inability to distinguish between spin and hypocrisy.
The first situation bears no resemblance to the second. You’re championing piety - not common sense.
> The first situation bears no resemblance to the second

Both are Votes of Confidence in the Prime Minister by the Parliamentary Conservative Party.
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For clarity I'll give an analogy that I think fits here.

In this analogy JRM knows two people - one is a good mate and the other he despises.

Unbeknownst to JRM, they both regularly beat their children. When he finds this out he says of the person he doesn't like, "It's a disgrace - she should go to jail for that".

Of his friend, he says, "Spare the rod and spoil the child"

That's hypocrisy and that is structurally what JRM did with his announcements.

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naomi24

//SP/ellipsis, so are you saying that the principle you’re championing overrides circumstances and the damage that could result from applying that principle? Is there no room for common sense?//

The principle I'm championing (I can't talk for Ellipsis) is honesty and having a moral compass. I would have far more respect for JRM if after the BJ vote of confidence he said, "This is not a good result for the PM and we must work at building the trust and backing of the party. We hear the warning shot".

That would've been completely fair. Instead he "a vote of 51% is still a majority".

Seriously hypocr...

Actually naomi24 - let's try this the other way round. What's your definition of hypocrisy?
Naomi.

You're obviously not going to answer a simple question so there's no point continuing.
^^ ^^
She has answered the simple question and gives a well structured
argument why Rees-Mogg is not a hypocrite.
^^^^

^^^^
So classy.
Yep, not proud of that one. But honestly, no point arguing with a troll ...

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