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Does Anyone Really Believe That Boris's Forced Departure Will Heal Divisions In The Conservative Government?
Excellent article from Carole Malone writing in the Daily Express.
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burlyshirley
//Yes, a fine article, she pulls no punches either way. She admits his faults and points out where he went wrong, but still feels 'devastated' by his resignation, as I do.//
Lol, utterly pathetic.
I wonder if the mindset would have been different if Pincher was predatory with women instead of men?
A sex pest is still a sex pest, regardless of gender.
//Yes, a fine article, she pulls no punches either way. She admits his faults and points out where he went wrong, but still feels 'devastated' by his resignation, as I do.//
Lol, utterly pathetic.
I wonder if the mindset would have been different if Pincher was predatory with women instead of men?
A sex pest is still a sex pest, regardless of gender.
Sorry naomi I will post it again:
She was wrong and I (apparently??) was wrong to suggest that Boris Johnson said he didn't know Chris Pincher was a sexual predator and promoted him anyway when the facts are indeed that Boris Johnson knew that Chris Pincher was a sexual predator and promoted him anyway and then said he didn't know of any specific allegations and then said he'd forgotten about them by the time that he promoted said sexual predator, having already known that he was a sexual predator.
good to be precise.
She was wrong and I (apparently??) was wrong to suggest that Boris Johnson said he didn't know Chris Pincher was a sexual predator and promoted him anyway when the facts are indeed that Boris Johnson knew that Chris Pincher was a sexual predator and promoted him anyway and then said he didn't know of any specific allegations and then said he'd forgotten about them by the time that he promoted said sexual predator, having already known that he was a sexual predator.
good to be precise.
I had to smile when I heard Johnson’s biographer on the radio claiming that BJ had all the things needed to have been a great PM were it not for ….
But the “were it not for” is rather important. He got the gig because the Tories were in crisis over Brexit and he did what was needed by winning an election : that was the “get Brexit done” bit. With an 80 seat majority he could and should have dominated the political scene for years but he squandered it.
The claims he was stabbed in the back are ludicrous : most of his ministers and MPs stuck with him for far longer than they should : looking snd sounding increasingly ridiculous as they did so until finally they had had enough
But the “were it not for” is rather important. He got the gig because the Tories were in crisis over Brexit and he did what was needed by winning an election : that was the “get Brexit done” bit. With an 80 seat majority he could and should have dominated the political scene for years but he squandered it.
The claims he was stabbed in the back are ludicrous : most of his ministers and MPs stuck with him for far longer than they should : looking snd sounding increasingly ridiculous as they did so until finally they had had enough
I don't think they will; the main splitter is Brexit and there are still those who want to reverse it. I voted to remain but, as a believer in democracy, think we should go with the majority and make the best of it. Re-joining would put us in a worse position than we are now and even trying to rejoin will cause mayhem.
ToraToraTora
//ich: 2With an 80 seat majority he could and should have dominated the political scene for years but he squandered it. " - it's almost as if there has been a pandemic or something.//
Should’ve dealt with it then in a manner reflecting the gravity of the situation, not lied and pished it up all the way through.
Did any other government in the western world resort to such behaviour?
//ich: 2With an 80 seat majority he could and should have dominated the political scene for years but he squandered it. " - it's almost as if there has been a pandemic or something.//
Should’ve dealt with it then in a manner reflecting the gravity of the situation, not lied and pished it up all the way through.
Did any other government in the western world resort to such behaviour?
I am sure you wont be surprised to learn I disagree with you Naomi.
Its a shame Johnson went the way he did but if you turn into a green liberal wrecking the economy after being elected because your new bit on the side is then dont be surprised when people dislike you.
I think the Party will grow in strength because of it, especially since it seems Sir Kier and Raynor are here to stay. Remember, its not the Party members you have to please it is Middle England. They decide on the Government and they were not happy with Johnson, his taxes and green polices.
Its a shame Johnson went the way he did but if you turn into a green liberal wrecking the economy after being elected because your new bit on the side is then dont be surprised when people dislike you.
I think the Party will grow in strength because of it, especially since it seems Sir Kier and Raynor are here to stay. Remember, its not the Party members you have to please it is Middle England. They decide on the Government and they were not happy with Johnson, his taxes and green polices.
naomi24
// Ich, Boris is not toxic in any traditional Tory area I know//
Lol, except that even now he lives(sorry, squats) in a Labour-run ward after the recent council elections.
Also, try researching how toxic he is in Westminster, that’s been a Tory area for 12 years.
To paraphrase a recent question by a bank-bench Conservative MP, are there any circumstances in which you would not support Boris Johnson?
// Ich, Boris is not toxic in any traditional Tory area I know//
Lol, except that even now he lives(sorry, squats) in a Labour-run ward after the recent council elections.
Also, try researching how toxic he is in Westminster, that’s been a Tory area for 12 years.
To paraphrase a recent question by a bank-bench Conservative MP, are there any circumstances in which you would not support Boris Johnson?
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