Penny Steps Closer To No 10.....

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-62086798

[naomi24]

The woman who I've just discovered says trans women are women and trans men are men? Heaven forbid! No thanks!

[ToraToraTora]

well that's only one minor thing. No one ever agrees 100% with someone else do they.

[naomi24]

It's not minor at all. If she's that ridiculously 'woke', what else is she 'woke' about?

[naomi24]

And TTT, you've shouted as loudly as anyone - of not louder - about this - and suddenly it's ok? How come?

[New Judge]

I think I could put up with that nonsense if she restores Conservative policies and values to the Party, naomi. The "trans" nonsense will die a natural death when people realise that it affects only about one in two hundred people (if that) and there is no need for any special arrangements to be made for them. It simply needs sporting bodies to prevent men who are pretending to be women from participating in women's sport under any circumstances. The rest will wither on the vine.

Far more important is the restoration of a small State, with low taxes and low public spending, and the ditching of the ludicrous "Net Zero" energy policies.

[Hopkirk]

You were making sense NJ, until you seemed to suggest that fighting climate change is nonsense. It's our biggest challenge.

[ToraToraTora]

naomi: "And TTT, you've shouted as loudly as anyone - of not louder - about this - and suddenly it's ok? How come?" - it's not ok it's something I don't agree with but then again I don't expect every Tory to agree 100% with all my views. I doubt I agree 100% with every view of any of the candidates. Even TGL had ideas that I did not agree with but overall I can accept deviation on minor issues for the overall package.

[naomi24]

Knowing she said that I wouldn't trust her an inch.

[naomi24]

TTT, playing to a 'woke' agenda and making what are perceived to be the right noises is not my idea of a good politician.

[burlyshirley]

When I try to open this, I get something about Ben Wallace - happened twice now.

I also agree with naomi, if she has this one 'woke' view, you can bet your bottom dollar, she has plenty of others waiting to burst forth !

[ToraToraTora]

It's just one minor issue naomi that is irrelevant to all but a few activists. As the judge says, it's fad that will wither on the vine once all the sports ban blokes pretending to be women. She probably doesn't support the same football team as me but no one is 100% are they.

[naomi24]

The point is, TTT, the current PM has been booted out on charges of lying - ‘lies’ that can be countered with rational argument. She is telling a lie for which there is no counter argument. What she is saying is demonstrably untrue. I’m truly surprised at you.

[Stableford]

Penny Mordaunt would have wider appeal than some of the more loony right fringers like, say, Steve Baker. Conservatives will need all the votes they can get at the next election and someone to the left of the party would be a sensible choice.

[youngmafbog]

I'm afraid I am in Naomis camp.

Ms Mordaunt seemed to be just the person I was looking for in a leader until I saw she doesnt know what a woman is (just like Sir Kier). Thats the end of it for me, I wouldnt want her in No10.

[youngmafbog]

//It's our biggest challenge.//

Codswallop.

[Deskdiary]

Oh that's a shame.

I like her, I especially liked how she utterly humiliated Rayner, completely destroyed her Rayner's points, and showed her up for the intellectual and political pygmy she is.

However...

I cannot agree that perpetuating the absurd myth that biological men are women is a minor issue; on the contrary, I think it's a big issue, so I'm saddened she's taken that stance. She may well have done so get the very tiny, but very vocal and bullying minority on side, but it doesn't make it right.

I want a Tory leader who feels the same as me, that is to say low taxation, little interference and small 'g' Government - basically I want to keep more of my money.

There's not a single Government in the world, no matter what their hue, who can spend my money more wisely than I can; Governments are inherently wasteful, by dint of the simple fact they're spending other people's money.

If she promised me I would be able to keep more of my money, chances are I'd overlook the lie she's perpetuating (I've never made any secret that I'd vote for anybody/party who would let me keep more of my money for me and mine), but until/unless that happens, I'm dissapointed in her stance.

[Gromit]

// Penny Steps Closer To No 10 //

Doubt it. She is awful and tainted. No no no.

[FatticusInch]

Another AB righty-fighty so soon? PMSL.

[ToraToraTora]

naomi: " She is telling a lie for which there is no counter argument." - what lie? It's an opinion.

[ichkeria]

Mordaunt has now joined the fray making 9.
Liz Truss will make it 10.

Come on Bill Wiggin: you know you want to ;-)