C4 Candidates Debate

[FatticusInch]

Seen 'Britain's Next PM: The Conservative Debate'? Watch it here on All 4:

https://www.channel4.com/programmes/britains-next-pm-the-conservative-debate?cntsrc=social_share_ios_britains_next_pm_the_conservative_debate

Anyone watching? Good opening question from the audience :

How can we trust any of you?

Krishna Gurumurthy taking them to task too over their answers.
Not spicy yet, but it could be.
Biased as I am, Tugendhat answered best in my mind.

[FatticusInch]

Hopkirk
//If I walked past Penny Mordaunt in the street tomorrow, I wouldn't recognise her.//

I would.


I’d definitely recognise her too.

[Hopkirk]

Naughty

[FatticusInch]

From the BBC Live Feed:

Tugendhat winner of debate, according to snap poll
Tom Tugendhat was the winner of tonight's debate, according to a snap poll from political research firm Opinium.

More than one third of 1,000 voters asked to watch the debate said the backbench MP performed best, with former Chancellor Rishi Sunak in second.

The full results are:

Tugendhat 36%
Sunak 24%
Mordaunt 12%
Badenoch 12%
Truss 7%
9% were either none or didn't know

[FatticusInch]

Opinium
@OpiniumResearch
Based on what you have seen tonight, do you think each of the following would be a good / bad PM?

Tugendhat 61/31
Sunak 51/45
Mordaunt 44/49
Badenoch 41/49
Truss 29/65

I know people don’t give much credence to polls but this one presents the Tories with a headache, surely?

[jno]

the Tories may just say "*** the public". It's been known to happen.

[FatticusInch]

Indeed Jno and if they do they’re destined to lose the GE.

[Old_Geezer]

Wot no vote ?
Thought they were in a hurry.

[THECORBYLOON]

I wonder if Tory members were polled after the debate?

[FatticusInch]

Next vote is Monday.
Could be quite an acid test, it seems obvious that the public want a return to honesty and transparency.
As I’ve said, the audience certainly appreciated Tugendhat being truthful about Johnson whilst the others dodged it.
Let that be a lesson to them.

[THECORBYLOON]

In their tweet, Opinium posted, "Tonight we asked over 1000 normal voters to watch the debate and we have just asked them who they thought performed best."

Do they mean a thousand folk who usually vote or a thousand folk who are not raving mad?

[Hopkirk]

What's a normal voter?

[THECORBYLOON]

That is what I'm wanting to know.

[FatticusInch]

So what will the Tory party do now?
As the 5 went into the debate, Sunak was top of MP votes with 101.
Tugendhat was last with 32(after Braverman’s exit).
Yet the poll tonight shows he won clearly, which probably indicates that the party is indeed out of touch with the public and they’re backing the wrong horse for the GE.

[FatticusInch]

What’s a normal person?
What’s normal?

[naomi24]

I didn't watch. I see no point in politicians pitching to the nation if the nation has no say in the outcome.

[DTCwordfan]

Its a 1000 people signed up to Opinium for research polls and are paid for responding. I'm one such person but didn't participate as:
i - working
ii - wanted to watch a bit of The Open
iii - I subscribe to the 'why show this?' brigade

The election for the Women's Institute is coming up - will C4 broadcast the hustlings for this - there's more relevancy as to the numbers of folk involved?

[10ClarionSt]

This country is gradually becoming like the USA. It's not a Presidential election. I didn't watch it. I can't believe any broadcaster is giving it air time.

[gulliver1]

Fci @ 22.48. Proves Tory Mps are looking after their own *** ,and stuff the public .

[FatticusInch]

A fair summary from the Guardian.
https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jul/15/five-key-takeaways-from-the-first-conservative-leaders-debate

Tugendhat was honest, forthright, trustworthy, competent and confident.
Ironically, the party will end up choosing one of the 3 who dodged the Johnson question that he answered so truthfully.
More fool them.

[gulliver1]

Fci @ 08.35 .Tugendhat,was honest , forthright, trustworthy, competent and confident.
.......Are you sure he's a Tory ...