C4 Candidates Debate

[FatticusInch]

Seen 'Britain's Next PM: The Conservative Debate'? Watch it here on All 4:

https://www.channel4.com/programmes/britains-next-pm-the-conservative-debate?cntsrc=social_share_ios_britains_next_pm_the_conservative_debate

Anyone watching? Good opening question from the audience :

How can we trust any of you?

Krishna Gurumurthy taking them to task too over their answers.
Not spicy yet, but it could be.
Biased as I am, Tugendhat answered best in my mind.

[FatticusInch]

That’s their problem Gulliver, the best all-round candidate won’t get anywhere near leadership of the party.
It’ll cost them at the GE, guaranteed.

[gulliver1]

Fci @ 08.52.No doubt about it The Tories will get hammered ,at the next G/E and probably the one after , they will be out of the game for at least a decade. And so they deserve to be .Good riddance.

[davebro]

here's to you, Mrs Robinson

[ToraToraTora]

fatti: "That’s their problem Gulliver, the best all-round candidate won’t get anywhere near leadership of the party.
It’ll cost them at the GE, guaranteed. " - dream on they could elect Dylin and still beat Labour.

[gulliver1]

"Wev'e got the Blues on the run"and I think TTT has got the runs, after reading my post @ 09.07

[bobbinwales]

Do you get to vote in our elections gulliver.. for someone who escaped you seem to have an obsession with uk politics and brexit and nothing else to post about... life must be dull there

[FatticusInch]

ToraToraTora
//fatti: "That’s their problem Gulliver, the best all-round candidate won’t get anywhere near leadership of the party.
It’ll cost them at the GE, guaranteed. " - dream on they could elect Dylin and still beat Labour.//

There you go again, spouting the wrong stuff at the wrong time, strait of yours.
It’s not Labour you need to worry about, it’s a combination of them, the Lib Dems, disillusion with the party by the faithful and voter apathy.
So far none of your wild predictions are anywhere near the mark and you still look stupid over your ‘and by what mechanism will they get rid of Boris’ bovine faeces we all laughed at.
In case you missed it, here’s the final part from the Guardian link.

There was little love in the room for any of the candidates

Applause was sporadic, and mostly directed either at Tugendhat, or when Sunak was singing the praises of an NHS worker who had asked a question. At the end Krishnan Guru-Murthy asked for a show of hands of the floating voters in the audience who had been persuaded to be more likely to vote Conservative. Ten hands went up at most.
It wasn’t a feral BBC Question Time audience, but at times, particularly when issues around trust and Partygate were being touched upon, the disdain for the audience with politicians was palpable. Whoever wins out of this contest in the end, they have an uphill climb.

[FatticusInch]

*a trait not strait

[andres]

The next Prime Minister needs to be confident, eloquent and charismatic. None of the five seemed to fit that description. Mind you, that's just my opinion.

[DTCwordfan]

I see we have another debate on ITV at 7pm - I've just had an Opinium e-mail hit the box inviting me to partake....

[FatticusInch]

Not sure why they need to be charismatic off the bat, after the last charlatan we’ve had just honest and trustworthy will be a great start.
Steely determination etc ought to automatically follow.

[jno]

Hitler had charisma: an overrated virtue in my opinion.

[Old_Geezer]

Influential though.

[andres]

FatticusInch----Well if you want a lack-lustre , wooden person that's your choice.

[Old_Geezer]

My personal preferences are not in the contest, and I'm most disappointed at the leading two. I didn't see the debate, but they don't necessarily let the best option shine anyway. More of a, "Who's best and making a slick impression when on the spot", contest. I don't see this likely to end well for the nation nor for the Tory party. (Unless they have another go between now and the next GE.)

[FatticusInch]

andres
//FatticusInch----Well if you want a lack-lustre , wooden person that's your choice.//

Nothing lack-lustre or wooden about him and he was the only one who answered a straight yes or no question with an honest ‘no’.
I’ll take that as a solid and refreshing starting point from a politician.
If you want wooden, Truss was perfect.
A shining example of what happens when the ventriloquist dies but the dummy keeps talking.