Comeuppance.

[gulliver1]

Rishi Sunak is claiming that current evidence suggests, The Tory Party would suffer defeat at the next G/E if Liz Truss is made PM.......
I suggest The Tory Party will suffer a Huge defeat at the next G/E no matter who is P.M. .Truss or Sunak ..........End of.

[youngmafbog]

Haha.

In your (probably wet) dreams.

[ToraToraTora]

"Rishi Sunak is claiming that current evidence suggests, The Tory Party would suffer defeat at the next G/E if Liz Truss is made PM....... " - nooo, you seriously mean that her direct opponent is claiming she'd be bad?? Horror horrors!

[anneasquith]

Labour need a new leader long before the GE.

[davebro]

It is a risk - but at my age I won't have to suffer our next rulers for too much longer!

[youngmafbog]

come on, be fair TTT, he hasnt got Boris to go on about all day anymore :-)

[youngmafbog]

Now thats one thing I do agree with Anne.

The issue is, they have the same lack of talent the Tories do. All parties are stale, and it seems to be in other countries too where people are voting for the least worst.

[Deskdiary]

Why are even answering Gulliver’s OP.

He’s said “end of”.

[youngmafbog]

I think the tradition of a Gully thread is to ignore the OP and have agood discussion amongst ourselves.

[Deskdiary]

Ah, I see; that makes sense.

[andy-hughes]

Speaking as someone who supports a party that has Keir Starmer as its leader, and a similarly character-free lot of wonks in its shadow cabinet, I don't really think you are in a position to crow.

It's not as though your lot are offering anything approaching a viable alternative is it!

[naomi24]

AH, they haven’t done too badly for the past few years.

[Paigntonian]

He's showing, yet again, that he doesn't understand how the game plays out. Been in parliament five minutes and he think he's the dog with two thingys. If he believes that he can forecast what would happen if Truss became PM then he's talking rot. Ghastly chancer, wallowing in his 'back story', playing a race card and - best of all - waffling on about how his wife's parents became the founders of a multi-million company with a start-up capital of £200. Utter rubbish.

[tomus42]

If that's what he's saying he must be getting desperate.
I think he's right though.

[Paigntonian]

In brief, the insincerity shines through.

[Paigntonian]

Labour: Yes, they need someone with conviction, with personality, passion, anger and intelligence. No huge fan of Kinnock but he would have shown some heart, some effort, some strength. The Limp Lettuce Leaf is a waste of everyone's time. A useless waste of time.

[naomi24]

The most stupid thing is they still don’t recognise the damage they, themselves, are doing by continuing to publicly tear their own to bits. I think that by its own treacherous actions in recent weeks this government has lost a huge amount of respect - and this is no way to regain it. This man is a self-serving power-seeker and nothing more.

[FatticusInch]

He is right of course but it’s a moot point.
The public will recall and be constantly reminded by opposition parties that a former member of Johnson’s cabinet is now the PM(whoever wins) and at every opportunity be lambasted for covering for it being a part of Johnson’s diabolical, lying, law-breaking time in office.
They’ll have it dragged up ad infinitum that they sat back as he partied in lockdown whilst the country followed their rules, none of them challenging him on his behaviour, just endless ‘one more chance’ and ‘benefit of the doubt’ blind loyalty of substance that got them where they are.
Starmer must up his game massively in the next 6 months, he needs new script writers for a start.
Either way he’ll probably end up as PM after the next GE but of a coalition government.
He’s not exactly Mr Charisma but he’s now deemed competent and trustworthy, more as a result of Johnson’s actions than any performances of note of his own.

[naomi24]

Starmer is deemed competent and trustworthy? By whom? You’ve got to be having a larf!!

[FatticusInch]

Naomi,
No more treacherous than Johnson was to both May and Cameron.
You really can’t throw that word around in light of Johnson’s behaviour, that in itself was certainly treacherous to Pincher’s victims no doubt.

[naomi24]

Yes I can.