The Donald Is Back!

[Khandro]

Great speech, straight from the heart, no baloney, & no autocue. Sleepy Joe, be afraid.

https://news.sky.com/video/donald-trump-former-us-president-gives-his-first-speech-in-washington-dc-since-leaving-office-12659735

[Paigntonian]

Doesn't need an autocue. He can talk BS without one.

[Paigntonian]

ich: Gun crime worse under Biden? Methinks you're mistaken, unless you count the fruitcake nutters who think the pres is the antichrist and feel the need to buy bigger and better firearms.

[Paigntonian]

Vanity Fair describes The Donald as 'presidential candidate Trump'. Odd.

[THECORBYLOON]

"Of course there was inflation, neither he nor I says there wasn't - where did you get that from?"

He says, "Two year ago we had..." then lists various claims including at twenty-two second, "no inflation".

[Khandro]

The real cheating in the 2020 election — and every other election in recent memory — wasn’t that Iran, China or Chavez were manipulating our voting machines. It wasn’t the ballot harvesting allegedly exposed in Dinesh D’Souza’s movie, 2,000 Mules. It was what liberals were doing right in front of our faces.

Democrats have what are known as “unmotivated voters.” As such, they need battalions of “Get Out the Vote” activists to track down the bored and the lazy. (Yes, the same marginalized people whom liberals claim are having their lifelong dreams of voting dashed by GOP “voter suppression” schemes can’t be bothered to get out of bed on Election Day.)

Over the years, Democrats have lured their voters to the polls with a free ride, a box lunch and walking-around money — even a gurney, if that’s what it takes. Volunteers give the voters detailed, childlike instructions on exactly how to fill out their ballots. Luckily, unionized government workers have plenty of time on their hands to “organize” voters.

[fender62]

democrats are pro urban campers, keeps them away from there gated communities..

[bednobs]

Does anyone here really care what happens in an obscure backwards foreign country?
Ps I'm not sure I've ever used a voting machine, let alone had chavez influence it

[THECORBYLOON]

This link disputes the claims made in the "2,000 mules" film.

https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-usa-mules-idUSL2N2XJ0OQ

[JDavis]

Khandro,

So, to clarify, do you believe the election was unlawfully stolen and do you believe the Capitol rioters acted independently of Trump?

[Ellipsis]

It's unbelievable that it's even a debate after the Jan 6 attack on the Capitol Building. It's as if it never happened for some people.

[douglas9401]

Aye, like the formation of spherical planets the moon landings and the whole JFK thing.

[Khandro]

JDavis ; //So, to clarify, do you believe the election was unlawfully stolen and do you believe the Capitol rioters acted independently of Trump?//

Two questions: (1) I don't know, and neither do you, but probably not.
(2) They certainly acted independently of Trump, because he wasn't there, & this enquiry will never be able to prove his personal culpability for what the mob did.

[JDavis]

No, I wasn't there but prefer to believe the lawcourts which found no evidence of fraud and dismissed over 50 claims from Trump and his camp.

And there is taped evidence of a Trump phone call to Georgia's top elections official, asking him to 'find'around 12 thousand votes to overturn the result.

You must be desperate to claim Trump is not implicated because he wasn't there personally. The transcript of his speech (rant, Naomi?)
shows it was extremely inflammatory and ended with 'So let's walk down Pennsylvania Avenue.' Court testimony, which I have no reason to disbelieve, says Trump was unconcerned by the violence (as the rioters were on his side) and indifferent to the fact that Mike Pence might be lynched.

I notice you've also said 'they won't be able to prove his personal culpability' which is hardly resounding support for his innocence.

I cannot believe that you seriously think this man is fit to be President.

[naomi24]

//rant, Naomi?//

Not just now thanks. I'm drinking my tea ... but thank you for the offer.

[Khandro]

JDavis; In other words, - nothing there of any consequence, & certainly nothing which could lead to incrimination.

The biggest crime that the AB moral philosophers seem to be able to come up with is that he was reading his splendid speech from an autocue !


And, (brace yourself) yes, along with 75 million Americans, (probably more now) I think he's fit to be president.

[JDavis]

Even though it's on record that he tried to fix the last election?

It's unbelievable!

[bednobs]

"The biggest crime that the AB moral philosophers seem to be able to come up with is that he was reading his splendid speech from an autocue !"
i think you'll find it was YOU who put it as one of his biggest assets, not the other way round.
I see you did not respond to my point about "world's securest border" or washington DCs gun laws It just makes it difficult to sympathise with your POV or take you sriously when you say things that either dont seem to be true or completely ignore people's responses/questions to you. It's perfectly ok for you not to of course, but as i say it makes it difficult to take you seriously

[JDavis]

Naomi,

You didn't answer my question at 16.29 yesterday. In what way was Untitled ranting?

[Khandro]

JDavis; //Even though it's on record that he tried to fix the last election?//

Which 'record' is that ?
He didn't try to "fix" the election, he believed, rightly or wrongly, that the result indicated some fraud had taken place.

Typical of Trump, that's how he is, everyone knows that, and saying so isn't a crime.
Read Togo's BA

[bednobs]

I wonder though if he IS going to run again whether he'll cry "fix" if he loses, but accept the outcome (and that all problems, frauds, interferences etc have somehow been magically solved) if he wins?