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Now Over 18,000 Channel Illegal Immigrants So Far This Year

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Gromit | 11:56 Tue 09th Aug 2022 | News
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We look set to beat last years appalling total of 28,000+

Government policy is failing (has been for 3 years).
Yet the minister over seeing this debacle keeps her job.

Is this problem really unsolvable ?
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Bobinwales
What deterrent?
Since the Rwanda policy was announced, 13,000 additional immigrants have come.
Patel has never said how many of the 57,000 she intends to send abroad.probabky because it is a pathtically low number.
Only 5.5% of the 18000 are from Albabia. Saying 40% Of migrants are Albania is very misleading.
' Saying 40% Of migrants are Albania is very misleading.'

Only if you're a DM headline reading mouth frother (not that I'm suggesting you are, Gromit) but one always needs to read, and understand, the full article.
Gromit, what is the source of your information?
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Naomi
What information ?
The figures you’re giving. What do they represent and where are they from?
Gromit, that’s about Australia - and it’s over a year old.
Where did you get those figures

Here

I don't belive them

Oh alright, case closed, you win.

Pots of toss abound.
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TTT said similar plans have worked for Australia. Gromit has pointed out how much it has cost Australia.
^That wasn't the question.
The figures bandied about by the 5C make no sense. I want to know how it costs the claimed £1.7m per person. What do we do kit them out with a 6 bed mansion, Rolls Royce and a Rolex? What is that figure based on? what do we actually buy for that?
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Tora,
£1.7Million is a guess because the Government have not revealed their costing of the Rwanda plan.
Australia pays that per person, so we are possibly doing the same (who knows).
If you want to know what Australia gets for £1.7million, go find out yourself. That is their budget, and they seem happy to spend it. Note that it is x4 more than Patel has allocated.
I think it's nothing like that and you 5C types are including initial set up costs. Once established the per person costs cannot be that high or they'd not to the deal. It's like saying when you build a prison the costs per prisoner are the costs of the build divided by the number of prisoners. Ignoring the fact that the infrastructure is now in place and future prisoners are now much cheaper.
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Tora,
The Australian off shoring scheme has been running for 10 years. It’s cost has gone up over the decade, not down.

// It is estimated that offshore processing cost the Australian government A$8.3 billion (US$6.2 billion) between 2014 and 2020. The annual cost of detaining a single asylum seeker in Papua New Guinea or Nauru is A$3.4 million (US$2.5 million). //

Patel has committed £120Million, not $8.3Billion. Until the UK Government put some serious money on the table, it is obviously an expensive gimmick, not a serious solution.

You can keep parroting that you don’t believe it, but you are not providing an alternative figure, mainly because the Home Secretary won’t tell you.
13.03 Spot on YMB .It's not Patel that needs sacking it is this complete rotten. twisted , corrupt Tory Govt that needs sacking ...every single one of them.
ok gromit, so what is it spent on? How can it be that high per person?
It seems there are some on here who dont have a problem with all these illegal migrants coming here every day. If so, why not and what are the advantages?
ToraToraTora
//We need to beef up the legislation so It's not challengeable and then leave the ECHR then implement it properly. Of course there is a much better 100% fool proof way of stopping this but we need France to want to help themselves rather than annoying us but that's another story.//

Well if the French are not doing their bit then what are we paying them for and the government have already put plans in place to give them even more??

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/priti-patel-s-plan-to-pay-french-millions-more-to-stop-migrants-angers-tories-nrlj3jgvc

From the link.

Priti Patel is planning to announce another
multimillion-pound deal with France to stop
migrants crossing the Channel in what is
likely to be one of her last acts as home
secretary.
She will risk another backlash from
Conservative MPs to pay the French tens of
millions of pounds for more beach patrols
and surveillance equipment, despite previous
deals having failed to improve the low
interception rate. Senior Tory MPs urged
Patel last night to pull out of the deal,
insisting that she was "throwing more good money after bad”.

It’s HER job to sort this out and get the French to utilise the money correct.
If they’re not, stop paying them and sack her for someone who can ‘deliver for the British people’ we’ve heard so much of!

11.07 davebro The UK NEEDS these immigrants desperately,to fill the vacancies of all the legal immigrants you sent back to their own Countries via Brexit.. Fruit and veg pickers. NHS workers etc and all the jobs the Brits won't do,,,, OK.

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