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As outlined in the story, who would benefit from carrying this out? No credible opinion forthcoming it seems.
Could Mad Vlad use it as a smokescreen to attack another neighbour? He is after all getting desperate it seems?
As outlined in the story, who would benefit from carrying this out? No credible opinion forthcoming it seems.
Could Mad Vlad use it as a smokescreen to attack another neighbour? He is after all getting desperate it seems?
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From the BBC:
“Seismographs in Sweden and Denmark detected underwater explosions in the same area as the leaks found in the Nord Stream 1 and 2 pipelines, Bjorn Lund from Sweden's National Seismology Centre (SNSN) told public broadcaster SVT.
"There is no doubt that these were explosions," Lund said.
SVT reports that the first detected explosion was recorded at 02:03 and the second at 19:04 on Monday.
Ukrainian presidential advisor Mikhaylo Podolyak tweeted that leaks in the pipelines were likely to have been caused by a "terrorist attack" by Moscow.
Polish PM Mateusz Morawiecki called the leaks an act of sabotage.”
“Seismographs in Sweden and Denmark detected underwater explosions in the same area as the leaks found in the Nord Stream 1 and 2 pipelines, Bjorn Lund from Sweden's National Seismology Centre (SNSN) told public broadcaster SVT.
"There is no doubt that these were explosions," Lund said.
SVT reports that the first detected explosion was recorded at 02:03 and the second at 19:04 on Monday.
Ukrainian presidential advisor Mikhaylo Podolyak tweeted that leaks in the pipelines were likely to have been caused by a "terrorist attack" by Moscow.
Polish PM Mateusz Morawiecki called the leaks an act of sabotage.”
Yes, having read the reports it appears that each act(or those reported on) are below the surface, hence it can only be military i.e. a submarine or depth charges?
Or is it just a case of poor Russian maintenance?
Even a former general recently claimed the nukes Putin has threatened to use are too old and poorly maintained.
Or is it just a case of poor Russian maintenance?
Even a former general recently claimed the nukes Putin has threatened to use are too old and poorly maintained.
Exactly……but sabotage by who and for what purpose?
Unless Putin actually IS going to use it as an excuse?
But surely Russian subs are tracked the second they leave their pens?
Unless they used these?
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Unless Putin actually IS going to use it as an excuse?
But surely Russian subs are tracked the second they leave their pens?
Unless they used these?
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Yes they have majorly overplayed their hand
Medvedev said today that if Russia uses nuclear weapons in Ukraine that Nato won't respond because they would be scared of retaliation on western cities. Even by his standards that is a pretty dumb thing to say. Both from a factual and a diplomatic point of view.
Medvedev said today that if Russia uses nuclear weapons in Ukraine that Nato won't respond because they would be scared of retaliation on western cities. Even by his standards that is a pretty dumb thing to say. Both from a factual and a diplomatic point of view.
" Apparently the US secret service CIA warned them weeks ago of possible attacks on the natural gas pipelines."^
"Experimentation was conducted off the coast of Bornholm, Denmark, with participants from Naval Information Warfare Center Pacific, Naval Undersea Warfare Center Newport, and Mine Warfare Readiness and Effectiveness Measuring all under the direction of U.S. 6th Fleet Task Force 68. "
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Wonder if they noted anything.
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"Experimentation was conducted off the coast of Bornholm, Denmark, with participants from Naval Information Warfare Center Pacific, Naval Undersea Warfare Center Newport, and Mine Warfare Readiness and Effectiveness Measuring all under the direction of U.S. 6th Fleet Task Force 68. "
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Wonder if they noted anything.
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thx fatts for posting this - 220 posts on the 'let me stare at my belly-button' thread
( and then: "let me stare at it a bit more")
the Danes say it was blown up - but as we latinists ask: "cui bono?".
no one I can see gets an advantage, so is the message ( I go on asked myself) political - - as in
By wrecking the pipeline, it underlines the future. Life can never be the same.
[sort of depressing: in twenty years when people ask: why did putin wreck the European settlement of 80 y? answer: because he could]
( and then: "let me stare at it a bit more")
the Danes say it was blown up - but as we latinists ask: "cui bono?".
no one I can see gets an advantage, so is the message ( I go on asked myself) political - - as in
By wrecking the pipeline, it underlines the future. Life can never be the same.
[sort of depressing: in twenty years when people ask: why did putin wreck the European settlement of 80 y? answer: because he could]
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