Things Can Only Better

[gulliver1]

Jacob Rees Mogg has resigned.....Hooray.

[douglas9401]

I took pimplyteen's query to be 'where's FatticusInch', in effect.

Another victory for girl power, see what can be achieved when differences are temporarily put aside?

[ToraToraTora]

naomi: "Multi-millionaire Tony Blair is a socialist. Just saying. " - of course he's not! He's a Thatcherite!

[Mozz71]

Keep peddling the same old line Tora, one day somebody other than you may believe it.

Also note I said "if JRM is right" when talking about Sunak's supposed socialism. The "if" is important. With Moggy's track record, the chances of him being right about anything is miniscule.

[ToraToraTora]

how about the grauniad?
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jan/18/blair-thatcher-legacy-labour-zarah-sultana

[ToraToraTora]

http://www.inquiriesjournal.com/articles/1123/tony-blair-thatchers-clone-or-original-thinker

how about the man himself:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-22073434

[Atheist]

What about the grauniad. Marina Hyde writes...
"https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/oct/25/rishi-sunak-prime-minister-system"

[Mozz71]

"Some Thatcher policies..."

She had 12 years in power and her legacy will last for decades to come. Building on some of her policies is inevitable, but removing some of her nastier ones was also necessary.

Look, I'm no fan of the war criminal Blair, and if you want to claim him as one of your own, fine. You can have all the nastiness and kowtowing to the yanks that went alongside his leadership. I just get tired of your attempts to rewrite history.

[ToraToraTora]

mozz: "Look, I'm no fan of the war criminal Blair, and if you want to claim him as one of your own, fine. " - I'm not claiming anything just pointing out that Blair was not a socialist.

[Mozz71]

You repeated lie that he wasn't Labour. He was under the Labour banner, so he was Labour.

[ToraToraTora]

it's not a lie it's a common opinion. He was in the Labour party but no one will ever convince me he was really Labour.

[Zacs-Master]

He was nooooo Labour, wannee?

[ZebuSanctuary]

// no one will ever convince me he was really Labour. //

It is no bad thing to stand by your convictions.

The argument you've tabled though does whiff a bit of the... Hitler was a socialist. Based on the official name of the Nazi party being 'The National Socialist German Workers' Party.

[gulliver1]

So good riddance then to the ghost of a victorian idiot.
Jacob Rees Mogg......One of the most arrogant, and unpleasant conservative MPs ever to sit around a British cabinet table and sprawl his ugly immage lounging across a house of commons bench .
.........(Idiot first class)

[ToraToraTora]

zebu: "The argument you've tabled though does whiff a bit of the... Hitler was a socialist. Based on the official name of the Nazi party being 'The National Socialist German Workers' Party. " - nope, the opposite in fact. I'm saying the name is NOT the correct label. Tony Blair was in the Labour party, he was NOT "real" Labour and definitely NOT a socialist. AH was in the National Socialists and ............ not a socialist. Thank you for backing up my assertion with an example from history.

[davebro]

you don't like him then gully?

[ZebuSanctuary]

// Tony Blair was in the Labour party, he was NOT "real" Labour //

TB's legacy includes being credited/discredited (depends on which side of the fence you sit) with bloating the public sector.

Is this not the actions of a Socialist. What more evidence do you need?

[ToraToraTora]

zebu: "TB's legacy includes being credited/discredited (depends on which side of the fence you sit) with bloating the public sector.

Is this not the actions of a Socialist. What more evidence do you need? " - Well that was mostly devolution, an electoral promise. Anyway it's not black and white, even the most right wing person does have socialist tendencies in come areas.

[gulliver1]

TTT @ 09.12 "Tony Blair was in the Labour party but was not real Labour" ....But He was a real Prime minister Not like the cardboard cut outs , that your bunch of clowns keep electing then ejecting after few weeks. ....ROFL.

[gulliver1]

Davebro @ 09.12 Well noted.

[ToraToraTora]

gulliver: "But He was a real Prime minister Not like the cardboard cut outs , that your bunch of clowns keep electing then ejecting after few weeks" - like Gordon Brown you mean?